What I am saying is if it's too early to heap praise then it's too early to slag off.

He has proved nothing yet either way. But normally those that won't give him praise are quick to jump on him after one defeat.

What I'm saying is that I have said all along we won't be able to say much either way untiul well into the season which is why I haven't been swinging from the treetops when we've won or slitting my wrists when we lose.

Which is unusual for you.

What's your avatar all about then?

Not in the slightest. My previous (and current) opinion's on agar's abilities were founded on his proven inability to get the best out of the group of players he had to work with over nearly a 2 year period. I know for a fact that his track record to date prove he isn't a good coach. I am, however, willing to give him some time with a new group of players to see if he has learned anything and improved his abilities. I have siad all along this season that the odd great performance or the occasional poor one prove nothing, it's the overall level of performances which will be the evidence.

Practically speaking, great coaches can get the best out of whoever they are working with and to be considered a good coach would take a number of years of consistent performances to evidence it. Tony Smith has shown at 3 clubs he can get people to perform well, likewise kear

agar's rubbish and he should be binned





Circa 2009 of course

Hang around you, I may need you to write me one of your "letters to agar" in a few weeks

I'm not a big fan of Agar's. He hasn't proved anything yet, apart from the fact that he knows how to recruit a decent squad, starting with the pack. IMO he will show us exactly what quality of coach he is within the next 5 or 6 weeks when we will have played Wigan, Leeds and Bradford.

I'm not holding my breath and I suspect that he will show us that he falls short when compared to the better coaches in SL but give him the next two months maximum and we should know either way.

You over the shocking treatment of Rufus The Robin yet ? Did you get a reply from Rule or did public opinion change your mind and make you claim it was all a joke before you had chance to click on send ?

Surely thats a recycling bin

Are you a Hull Supporter - Do you go to matches and enjoy yourself - ????? Supporting a team is great stop having such a problem about who is coaching - if we all had your thinkining we would be Manchester City oh maybe we are! New coach please??

No, did you report me to the police for offering to shoot him before I posted anything else





E minus, must try harder

"Dear mr agar, I think you're rubbish and want you to leave but I'll deny it next season when I've had a nice Christams

Staffs FC"

Not been enjoying it for the last couple of years love

Ok Love - Not a Supporter is the answer then.

Oh dear a fake quote from Jake



Here's a genuine one from Staffs re Rufus' shocking banning at the KC :

Thanks, I'll take your opinion on board

If I were as bothered as you I'd dig up the one I posted before that where I offered to shoot rufus as recompense for his actions at half time in the derby with my shotgun, but I aint because I don't care what goes on in staffs world.

And me caring about public opinion







Now even for you that is ridiculous, i court unfavourable public opinion, it's the best bit about being on here

Good for you my friend keep it up

Richard Agar should be applauded for his recruitment, releasing the dross and actually showing he's the boss by dropping Tansey, as it's something that was seriously lacking last season with the players behaviour.

as for his coaching ability, the jury is out, simply because of the evidence of the previous 2 seasons. I thought friday night's gameplan wasn't much different to last season to be honest, only that we have better players and attitude to carry it out. it will be interesting when we play Wigan after hopefully beating Castleford,if Agar can devise a gameplan with variety to beat them. Personally I don't think Wigan are much different to us. I don't think their pack is better than ours, and we're equally matched ine the backs. I'm sure Longy, if fit, will have a few things up his sleeve.

Even amongst the supporters.

We've already beaten far better teams in St's and Hudds, so the fact you are using them as a yardstick for success shows one of 2 things, you are stuck in 1999 or you are blinded by SKY's continual talk of the big 4 still.

Oh really ?? Thanks for that....no really !!

that wigan game is shaping upto to be a classic game both sides going into it in decent form espcially if both sides can win at the weekend. i think we have the edge in the forwards but think wigan have better quality and experience in the backs