I'm with Jake on this one, we should be winning this game looking st the 19 man squads, they have a decent pack out, but there backs are weak.

Mcshane out is a massive boost.

Come on yu ullllllaaaaaa

Can't see us winning . We really aren't playing well at all. Lots of unforced errors and when you look at what strike you have with the likes of Kelly sneyd Connor and even westerman looks a player again I don't see us troubling you especially away from home.

Firstly, have you seen Cas lately? We aren't playing Saints. You are setting the bar pretty low if you would be happy with a battling defeat. That's not to say that they don't have a performance in them, but personally I would be gutted to lose.

Secondly, if we do go a few scores behind, you would like to think we will show a bit more character with it being a knockout game than we have in the league games.

We should be winning this without too many problems or we may as well throw the season's towel in now

Lane ahead of Hadley in the pecking order for me easily

We need to see hadley given a few games at 2nd row before writing him off. He's been all over the place in the games he's featured, mainly as a middle but also in the hooking role and at centre. I'm more bothered about his injury record than his ability

Hi Town88...Well I guess we think the same on our respective teams.
I’m basing my thoughts on our last time out against Cats, when just about our first choice pack was rolled over easily once there was daylight between the teams. And Cats had players out too.
What may make a difference for us tomorrow is the return of Sneyd and Kelly. I hope so.
But we’ve been shellacked 4 times now and I just don’t know which Hull FC side will turn up anymore.
And even when we match up for the first 20 mins, I still get worried when the opposition goes over twice in quick succession as I feel these days a third score pushes the barn door wide open.

For me, it’s a mental thing with Us. Any daylight and you can see the confidence and will-to-win drain from our lads. Till this addressed I’ll remain concerned.
I’m desperate for a win but I’m not confident. I’d love to be wrong tomorrow and see us get another Good Friday performance. That would be brilliant.

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I just thought the bar was already very low with the Cats defeat I found embarrassing. So a battling defeat is not good I agree but it’s a big improvement on throwing the towel in.

Personally, I think the we should show equal character in all games we play. Be it knock out or for league points. Especially now “The monkeys off our back” in the cup.
If anything, i believe it’s the GF they should now want the most, and that means getting the highest league position possible.
But our FC ( like everyone) appear so far behind the top 2 that maybe your right , we are targeting the cup, so that would mean your right again, we should expect to see a bit less character when it’s not a knock out game.
I’d hope not but you may well be right.

I think Radfords whole game plan is based on percentage rugby and fine margins. We rarely steam roller a team, we prefer the path of grinding them down - all Radfords game plan. Its what weve done for seasons now and granted its actually worked till recently. I think the problem now is if a team gets a few scores ahead of us we cant use the percentage grinding out technique and as we all know theres no plan B so we just cave in - only time this doesnt happen is when we suffer a major injury so have to change tactics ala moving Griffin to full back

This is a MUST WIN - no more to say

A close loss for me.

Then that’s the season over ! We Have to win

All Cup games are 'must win'.

Indeed, that's why it's called knock out rugby. Wouldn't put it past our team to pull a decent performance out of the bag, will it be good enough?, we will see.

There is a spectrum of 'must wins'
This match is at the end of the spectrum.

Our season won't be over, IF we lose tonight. We can still, and will, make top 5. Then who knows?

Fancy a comfortable win tonight, 14-18 points

Hope you are right Windy, normally with that team Cas have announced, our team on paper has the edge, But we’re very very unpredictable, Jekyll and Hyde almost. Which team will turn up, the Mr Hyde or the Doctor.

Short memory

Last season being knocked out at Saints was going to see us use the weekends off to storm into the Top 4
Remember ???
I do

After losing in the CC the worst dross in club history was served up

We HAVE to win

I have very long memory thank you.

Last year was last year, and IF we lose tonight we have a lot of season left.

So whilst it would be preferable to win tonight. We don't HAVE to.

That said I do agree that it is a game we should be winning, particularly with the respective team selections.

What a surprise, McShane and Millington fit after all - double timely boost.

We still got a strong team. No excuse COYH