Looking at that, my prediction is not too far off!! can I have a bit of what they are on please??

Bookies only put out initial odds to get the ball rolling. Once punters start putting money on the odds change to take the relative support onto account. They might lose in respect of an individual team but ensure they win overall. In a league their initial predictions are relatively unimportant.

You can only have a bit of what they are on by being a bookie yourself and manipulating the odds to your own advantage.

I have a mate who is a professional gambler. Whenever I question the odds on something he says "Do you know something the bookies don't? Then they know something you don't."

If anyone think the professionals don't know what they are talking about then they can always go over to an exchange betting site and offer their own odds.

Yes we do. The make-up of the KR team was not known when the Bookies made the initial odds. Making odds for a season competition is different to those for a one off match. Bookies are generally quite accurate when deciding which teams will fall into the middle band but the actual order is more often than not way out.

Upon realising rovers astounding recruitment, those bookies must have been distraught over not being able to change the odds.

66/1 Keith for rovers to win grand final. Not bad odds

Lies, damned lies and.....

2014 - Hull had the 6th best defence, the 8th best attack, scored the 8th most tries and finished 11th losing 6 matches by 6 points or less and drawing two.

Marc Sneyd had the second most try assists (30), scored 6 and kicked the most goals (99 - missed 30) and dropped 2 goals. Leon Pryce was joint 21st on try assists with 15 and scored 4. So Sneyd and Pryce together created 45 straight tries and scored 10.

All of Hull's goal kickers together kicked 89 goals and missed 38 so Sneyd beat them on his own and arguably those 10 goals difference (20 points) could have meant more points in the league.

I know these are mere statistics but I think that having us finish 8th and lower is pretty pessimistic when you see what those two are replacing.

Hull's half-backs in 2014 created 37 tries and scored 20 (perhaps not fair to call Heremaia a half-back)

Jordan Rankin - 13 try assists and 9 tries
Richard Horne - 10 and 5
Aaron Heremaia - 9 and 2
Jacob Miller - 3 and 3
Jordan Abdull - 2 and 1
(Westerman scored one drop goal)

Get your tenner on now before 2,000,000 HKR fans (in the know) bring the odds down to 6-4 on!!

Just think how well we'd have done with a proper coach...
it's all speculation, you can apply the same to almost any club, ATEOTD we lost the close games, didn't score enough & wimpered out the CC against a bang average Salford side.
Yes we have a better team this year but can that be translated into results, that's never a given, I think us finishing 8th is a realistic guess considering we have yet more new personnel (not bedded in esecially in the halves), an inexperienced coach and plenty of other teams with very good squads.

Found it, pretty much all hull fans have us 6th-8th, not surprisingly most fans were wrong and are not missing in action Keith and rupert were are you?

Some other shocking predictions, who said Leeds wouldn't finish in the top 8!!!

Good predictions on Hull and Cas -Des!

Not too bad, swap Cas and Salford around and you have the top 8.

Keith said you were on drugs aswell.

Still "high" from Friday!!!

Most people had Warrington in the top four. They've had a poor season by their standards.

Bottom four was right for most though. Cas have impressed considering the players they lost. On paper, they should be bottom for but Powell is a brilliant coach.

Don't think anyone expected Leeds to be as good as they've been also.

Had a shocker dave,the thing is I was quite confident,cas really surprised me how well they did and felt we would be a lot better.Shows how difficult its been this year.Looked like I'd got you right till you picked up well mid season.

It was always going to be a tough one, this season has been really tight and except Wakey, anyone capable of beating anyone.

On the other thread on the VT, I got us bang on, said 7th-8th.

Wakey was my only 1 correct,thought giants might struggle as well,but as you say anyone could turn each other over on any given day.

I massively underestimated Cas and Leeds and overestimated Warrington and Catalans. The rest of them I was there or there abouts.

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That doesn't surprise me one bit. If I had a pound for every time I'd read about Leeds being a "fading force", "ageing team" "found out" etc over the past 5 years I'd have a bigger swiss bank accoiunt balance than Sepp Blatter.

had us down as 7th on here, so spot on

Am I missing something?

Isn't there still 8 games left before the final table?

Yes.

Very informative, cheers

These were predictions for the table before the super 8 starts, that's why there are 12 teams instead of 8.