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| Quote ="SirBlighty"Quote ="Rock God X"So they should just drop their prices because the stadium isn't full? You don't really believe that, do you?'"
No i dont i believe us passholders should pay double...dont patronise me i was making a valid point.
Example challenge cup KC 16 quid...Craven park 10 quid. bums on seats means more money.'"
Craven Park is a heap. If you want to pay a tenner, go there.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Except that in our case that isn't necessarily true due to the nature of our deal with the SMC.'"
And add to that the fact that it makes astoundingly poor business sense to start cutting prices for the game that is likely to attract the biggest attendance of the year without any incentives.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Craven Park is a heap. If you want to pay a tenner, go there.'"
your obviously of low intelligence..jog on
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| Quote ="Kosh"Except that in our case that isn't necessarily true due to the nature of our deal with the SMC.'"
I wouldn't know what our deals are with the SMC. Maybe Pearson is living in fantasy land thinking he is gonna get 3000 more supporters this season.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"[uyour[/u obviously of low intelligence..jog on'"
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"I wouldn't know what our deals are with the SMC. Maybe Pearson is living in fantasy land thinking he is gonna get 3000 more supporters this season.'"
Or maybe Pearson doesn't think he's going to get 3000 more supporters this season.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"icon_lol.gif'"
sorry i meant you are a Pr1ck
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| Quote ="Rock God X"As Hutchie says, the family tickets for £50 are restricted to W1 and W2. If those sections are sold out, they're sold out. When the South Stand sells out no one expects the club to offer £19 tickets elsewhere in the ground, do they?'"
But with a crowd 4000 down on capacity would it not have been prudent to offer family tickets elsewhere just to fill the ground and the coffers. Just a thought if people were actively seeking them.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"sorry i meant you are a Pr1ck'"
Says the chap who expects our club to drop its prices for the biggest game (attendance wise) of the calendar. If you go into Tesco and they've run out of value brand beans, do you expect them to give you the Heinz ones for the same price?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"But with a crowd 4000 down on capacity would it not have been prudent to offer family tickets elsewhere just to fill the ground and the coffers. Just a thought if people were actively seeking them.'"
But then where does that stop? Most games we're 12,000 under capacity - perhaps we should just let everyone in for a fiver to watch those matches.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"But with a crowd 4000 down on capacity would it not have been prudent to offer family tickets elsewhere just to fill the ground and the coffers. Just a thought if people were actively seeking them.'"
Yes it's about enticing people back, get the rugby bug and maybe they will come back again.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Says the chap who expects our club to drop its prices for the biggest game (attendance wise) of the calendar. If you go into Tesco and they've run out of value brand beans, do you expect them to give you the Heinz ones for the same price?'"
I dont proclaim to have all the answers or be shot down in flames. By the way how would you do it?
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| Quote ="Rock God X"But then where does that stop? Most games we're 12,000 under capacity - perhaps we should just let everyone in for a fiver to watch those matches.'"
Understand your point but your 'normal' games arent sellouts by a long shot. But the derby generally is so my point is knowing they were 4000 below sellout and people are looking for family tickets would it have put fans out to allow extra family packs to be given out in other parts of the ground? they are stewarded to a sellout so no problem. Money made.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"I dont proclaim to have all the answers or be shot down in flames. By the way how would you do it?'"
Well, for a start, if I was going to offer reduced ticket prices, I wouldn't do it for a game where we'd get our highest attendance of the season regardless. If you say you'll do family tickets elsewhere because W1 and W2 have sold out, then it follows that you should offer £19 tickets elsewhere if the South Stand has sold out. For a game like Rovers, it would probably be more profitable for the club to sell 19000 tickets at full price than it would be to sell 23000 at a reduced price. Particularly when you take into account the deal with the SMC that Kosh mentioned earlier.
As it happens, I probably wouldn't offer reductions for any game. The crowds will return gradually when they see a period of sustained improvement - success will be more of a factor than the odd game being reduced to £15, or whatever. We're only a few games into the reign of AP, McRae and Gentle, and it will take longer than that for the floating support to return. We (the fans [iand[/i the club) will have to be patient.
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Understand your point but your 'normal' games arent sellouts by a long shot. But the derby generally is so my point is knowing they were 4000 below sellout and people are looking for family tickets would it have put fans out to allow extra family packs to be given out in other parts of the ground? they are stewarded to a sellout so no problem. Money made.'"
See my answer above.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Well, for a start, if I was going to offer reduced ticket prices, I wouldn't do it for a game where we'd get our highest attendance of the season regardless. If you say you'll do family tickets elsewhere because W1 and W2 have sold out, then it follows that you should offer £19 tickets elsewhere if the South Stand has sold out. For a game like Rovers, it would probably be more profitable for the club to sell 19000 tickets at full price than it would be to sell 23000 at a reduced price. Particularly when you take into account the deal with the SMC that Kosh mentioned earlier.
As it happens, I probably wouldn't offer reductions for any game. The crowds will return gradually when they see a period of sustained improvement - success will be more of a factor than the odd game being reduced to £15, or whatever. We're only a few games into the reign of AP, McRae and Gentle, and it will take longer than that for the floating support to return. We (the fans [iand[/i the club) will have to be patient.'"
Great thats your opinion and you are entitled to it although i disagree. The same CC fixture last year was free and i dont think it will be be the biggest attendance this season. Pearson knows he has to get the floating support back and IMO isn't helping charging 16 quid. Incentives have to be given somewhere because times are harder than last year. As you say if the team are doing well the support will return eventually and hopefully not too late.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"I wouldn't know what our deals are with the SMC.'"
Seriously? It's been discussed on here any number of times, and Pearson has also said in public that it prevents most discount schemes and he's trying to renegotiate it.
Quote ="SirBlighty"Maybe Pearson is living in fantasy land thinking he is gonna get 3000 more supporters this season.'"
When exactly did he say that?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Seriously? It's been discussed on here any number of times, and Pearson has also said in public that it prevents most discount schemes and he's trying to renegotiate it.
Yes but we are not privvy to all the information are we? or maybe you are i don't know.
When exactly did he say that?'"
He wants the supporters back doesn't he? how many is it exactly? When exactly didn't he say it?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Seriously? It's been discussed on here any number of times, and Pearson has also said in public that it prevents most discount schemes and he's trying to renegotiate it'"
I'm not privvyto the full information of any agreements and i'm sure you aren't either.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"He wants the supporters back doesn't he? how many is it exactly? When exactly didn't he say it?'"
He's said he wants to get back to the averages we had a couple of years ago as soon as possible. At no point has he said he wants 3000 more paying spectators this season.
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| Quote ="SirBlighty"I'm not privvyto the full information of any agreements and i'm sure you aren't either.'"
The essential points of the agreement are in the public domain. Try Google, or the search function on here.
Basically, the more fans we get the less we make per head on average. This means that at a certain seat price we stop making any money and start losing it. We can do some discounting - as per the South Stand pricing this season - but we can't drop prices to silly levels just to get bums on seats.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The essential points of the agreement are in the public domain. Try Google, or the search function on here.
Basically, the more fans we get the less we make per head on average. This means that at a certain seat price we stop making any money and start losing it. We can do some discounting - as per the South Stand pricing this season - but we can't drop prices to silly levels just to get bums on seats.'"
Tbh I don't think discount tickets are great in the long run. Once people have had a discount they tend to begrudge paying full price again. If you do it too often it might even effect season pass sales
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| Quote ="hedon faithful"Tbh I don't think discount tickets are great in the long run. Once people have had a discount they tend to begrudge paying full price again. If you do it too often it might even effect season pass sales'"
Good point well made. The thing which will affect attendances is not so much the price, but rather the performances on the field. As these improve so will the size of the crowd.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Good point well made. The thing which will affect attendances is not so much the price, but rather the performances on the field. As these improve so will the size of the crowd.'"
This will happen though,we already have come on in leaps.
Whenever I begin to doubt I cheer myself up reading the Wakey forum.
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| Maybe we aren't giving as many free tickets away now,as when we were getting 14,000.
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