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| Still think there needs to be some sort of retrospective punishment for Salford for the mess they are in.
Over the last few years we've had to make cut after cut to ensure we don't fall into financial ruin, but they've just been spending beyond their means and relying on handouts and bailouts from the rfl, councils, supporters etc... which all seems a bit shady although no proper financial audit seems to have taken place when handing out licence grades.
Really poor all round from Salford, IMG and the rfl (but it's what we've come to expect, right???)
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| [quote="Dave K.":1apvg4zv]Good job we got investment, imagine our firesale with last years squad.[/quote:1apvg4zv]
Indeed, or the reality would possibly have been I'll raise you a bag of chips and a slightly used pot of chip spice
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| [quote="mwindass":1hkmg2pg]https://x.com/johnnyddavidson/status/1881739332140056984?t=X04lPSb64491dV2TBcEPZA&s=19
Have sympathy for the Salford fans, but this never ending deadline is becoming a bit of a joke.[/quote:1hkmg2pg]
Just came on to post something similar. First it was the weekend, then it was today, now it's Friday... really does come across as smoke and mirrors.
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| [quote="Roam Ranger":1w3ghwyc]Just came on to post something similar. First it was the weekend, then it was today, now it's Friday... really does come across as smoke and mirrors.[/quote:1w3ghwyc]
In an ideal world they'll get sorted this week. But it seems to be another example of the governing body reluctant to govern.
Reading the comments from John Davidson, Salford will run into some registration/insurance issues if it's not sorted by Friday.
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| [quote="Roam Ranger":23gy81o6][quote="mwindass":23gy81o6]https://x.com/johnnyddavidson/status/1881739332140056984?t=X04lPSb64491dV2TBcEPZA&s=19
Have sympathy for the Salford fans, but this never ending deadline is becoming a bit of a joke.[/quote:23gy81o6]
Just came on to post something similar. First it was the weekend, then it was today, now it's Friday... really does come across as smoke and mirrors.[/quote:23gy81o6]
Exactly this, have sympathy for the staff & fans affected by this but how much longer are the RFL going to keep putting off making a decision, sticking to it, taking action and governing.
Just sounds like more time being bought and rearranging of deckchairs in hope more than anything. There comes a point in time where nettle needs to be grasped and it is going away with the season fast approaching.
Sadly another example of the amateur way the sport is run.
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| [quote="Chris71":3leqbjft]Exactly this, have sympathy for the staff & fans affected by this but how much longer are the RFL going to keep putting off making a decision, sticking to it, taking action and governing.
Just sounds like more time being bought and rearranging of deckchairs in hope more than anything. There comes a point in time where nettle needs to be grasped and it is going away with the season fast approaching.
Sadly another example of the amateur way the sport is run.[/quote:3leqbjft]
There does come a point but if there’s hope of a solution, the RFL, the creditors and other stakeholders will hold out while it lasts. If it all falls over in a week that’s not much worse than bringing it to a head now.
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| [quote="Mild Rover":164m9kyv]There does come a point but if there’s hope of a solution, the RFL, the creditors and other stakeholders will hold out while it lasts. If it all falls over in a week that’s not much worse than bringing it to a head now.[/quote:164m9kyv]
It is a difficult situation because you are right that whilst there is hope of a solution, all parties will want to give time for it to be resolved. And rightly so because we don't want to lose any club from the game. But the biggest question at the moment for me is not so much about when someone like the RFL will act but IF they will act at all.
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| Warrington with some interest in Sneyd I hear. His lad is on Man Utd's scholarship or youth teams, so no way he comes back East
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| apparently pulled out of the deal before their pre season summer camp, they wanted him before they flew out.
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| I really hope it works out for them, as they may have been some bridges burnt. No guarantees that clubs will sign players and pay a fee, when they could get them for free if there is no investment.
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| Someone had a good point on Twitter, of they are quota exemption brought in for Salford players there should be an exemption brought in for other signings. There are only 7 overseas players, so only a max of 7 clubs can benefit. To be fair, they should allow every club to sign an extra quota player.
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| Yeah, that is a fair and valid point
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| Not really, this is about saving people's incomes, not bolstering squads above and beyond that previously agreed. If we were given a dispensation would we sign a salford player or look for a quota half in Oz?
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| [quote="Dave K.":5qyqjdnm]Someone had a good point on Twitter, of they are quota exemption brought in for Salford players there should be an exemption brought in for other signings. There are only 7 overseas players, so only a max of 7 clubs can benefit. To be fair, they should allow every club to sign an extra quota player.[/quote:5qyqjdnm]
For me, this is one of the reasons why I feel they shouldn't be talking about exemptions at all at the moment. It's just a whole can of worms figuring out how to keep it fair for all clubs whilst also attempting to figure out a way to help out Salford. I know that each situation is different but the last time I believe there was exemptions was when Crusaders folded wasn't it? And those exemptions were to keep the suddenly uncontracted players employed. We're not in that position with Salford yet and hopefully we won't be.
To keep it fair, the RFL should have been reaching out solely to the clubs with available cap and quota spaces and encouraging them to deal. The other clubs should have been kept out of it until the situation turned more dire as per the Crusaders situation. I believe I read the other day that the latest proposal is that the clubs with spaces will get first refusal for a couple of weeks before clubs needing exemptions can get involved but if players and agents are aware that other clubs can put bids in for them in a few weeks then they'll just delay negotiations until they can get the maximum amount of offers on the table. So clubs with spaces may end up with no one whilst clubs with no spaces end up with extra players. It's going to be completely unbalanced.
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| Salford look like they've got the investment they need
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| [quote="mwindass":2f6lua58]Salford look like they've got the investment they need[/quote:2f6lua58]
Lets hope for the sake of all the Salford staff, fans and the game as a whole that this does indeed come through and in time. However moving forward I hope that Salford as a club for the good of the game will also face serious punishment for the situation if/when a takeover is completed.
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| [quote="mwindass":3twighm2]Salford look like they've got the investment they need[/quote:3twighm2]
Good news
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| After all the crap we publically got for not spending the last few years, I find it funny that Beaumount has sympaphy for Salford. Regardless of what we turfed up we didnt spend what we didnt have, well not to the degree Salford have.
More proof that DB is still very very bitter man.
Wonder if Salford fans wish they had took our approach instead of risking the club to just make the 6.
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| [quote="Chris71":ldy967mh]However moving forward I hope that Salford as a club for the good of the game will also face serious punishment for the situation if/when a takeover is completed.[/quote:ldy967mh]
Have they actually broken any rules though? As far as I’m aware (up to know anyways) they haven’t missed payments to players or other clubs, not failed to fulfil any fixtures or obligations anything like that. All we really know is that they asked for an advance of the TV money and the RFL granted it but put them in special measures whatever that means.
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| [quote="pmarrow":36av84hz]After all the crap we publically got for not spending the last few years, I find it funny that Beaumount has sympaphy for Salford. Regardless of what we turfed up we didnt spend what we didnt have, well not to the degree Salford have.
More proof that DB is still very very bitter man.
Wonder if Salford fans wish they had took our approach instead of risking the club to just make the 6.[/quote:36av84hz]
To be fair if it’s the same article I’ve just read he disguised sympathy but actually seemed to stick the boot in, saying that it’s detracted from their Jet2 deal and same stuff he used to spout about us being relegated saying it would be better for them in the long run like Rovers and Wakefield.
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| [quote="DSJ1983":tdenntsz]Have they actually broken any rules though? As far as I’m aware (up to know anyways) they haven’t missed payments to players or other clubs, not failed to fulfil any fixtures or obligations anything like that. All we really know is that they asked for an advance of the TV money and the RFL granted it but put them in special measures whatever that means.[/quote:tdenntsz]
responses to clubs going into administration or going under have always been… I suppose ‘ad hoc’ might be fair way of putting it? But, as you say, it didn’t come to that. Special measures is/was fair enough.
There’s maybe an issue around whether Salford were just optimistic in forecasting their revenue and were genuinely wrong-footed or if they weren’t as transparent as they should have been with IMG. If the latter, there’s maybe a case for an IMG penalty next time… but potential new owners will be well positioned to request a clean slate, as without them things get messy for the 2025 season.
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