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| Radders obviously doesn't rate Miller and had hauled Rankin off in the last 2 games. I want to believe in Rankin and its very early days but for a 6 to get subbed 2 games running.....
Heremaia took the line on yesterday, stretched them both left and right and looked the best player on the pitch for his 20 mins cameo (if only he's been on earlier we'd have won) but looking through Radfords eyes we appear short in this area.
Hall is a very gifted player, messed about from coach to coach. There's possibly attitude issues that havent helped him but this could be a really smart move. I was actually asking where Hall was yesterday as for me he's miles better than what HKR have in their halves at the mo. Also, we are generally short of 3/4s too.
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| Quote ="lummy"Radders obviously doesn't rate Miller and had hauled Rankin off in the last 2 games. I want to believe in Rankin and its very early days but for a 6 to get subbed 2 games running.....
Heremaia took the line on yesterday, stretched them both left and right and looked the best player on the pitch for his 20 mins cameo (if only he's been on earlier we'd have won) but looking through Radfords eyes we appear short in this area.
Hall is a very gifted player, messed about from coach to coach. There's possibly attitude issues that havent helped him but this could be a really smart move. I was actually asking where Hall was yesterday as for me he's miles better than what HKR have in their halves at the mo. Also, we are generally short of 3/4s too.'"
I agree that it seems unusual that Rankin is getting subbed. I wouldn't say that it's obvious that he doesn't rate Miller though. He's getting named in the 19 man squad but there's only two half back spots in the team for Rankin, Horne and Miller so one is obviously going to miss out. I believe Miller can only play in the halves (someone correct me if I'm wrong) so it doesn't make much sense to put him on the bench. Much better to put Heremeia there as he can play in multiple positions.
I also agree that Heremeia should have been on earlier. I suspect that he would have come on in the first half as we've seen in other games if Shaul hadn't been sin-binned. Radder's probably decided that we still needed Houghton's defensive steel. Of course that doesn't explain why he didn't come on when we was back to full strength.
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| maybe its tactical with rankin being subbed, warrington were visably tiring in the second half, bringing on aaron with 20 odd minutes left with fresh legs would be beneficial to us
don't understand why whiting wasn't introduced earlier though
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| The allams are the only reason city are were they are now they bailed them out otherwise they would have been in administration
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"The allams are the only reason city are were they are now they bailed them out otherwise they would have been in administration'"
Really? Where were the Allams back in 2001 when Hull City were actually in administration? Visiting family back in Egypt? Don't get me wrong. The Allam's are very much responsible for getting City up from the Championship to the Premier League and fair play to them for that. But City wouldn't have been anywhere near the Championship if Pearson hadn't bought them and bankrolled those promotions all those years ago.
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| Good luck to him if he ends up back at FC, he is a good squad player but will never be first choice in any position really. TBH, our backs are pi$$ poor and I wish we could offload a few more (Welham for definate, he's an FC fan if you want him as well).
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"The allams are the only reason city are were they are now they bailed them out otherwise they would have been in administration'"
What a load of tosh. Do you think the Allams would of bought City while they were in division 2? Which by the way he never was intrested. The only reason Allam came sniffing was because City where still near the premireship and he could smell money.
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| Quote ="Graham Richards"Is this as credible as the Long rumour last week?'"
You read my mind mate - how strange
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| Quote ="barham red"Thought City got it right after they binned AP off.'"
Good effort. But City came good after the money Barmby was desperately crying out for was poured like a tidal wave down the Humber into Bruce's coffers leaving Barmby redundant behind the tidal barrier. Ironic that they used Nick's plea as the trumped-up excuse to get rid of him and Pearson (an affront to Allam's generous motives, didn't the story go? A foul breach of trust, after such a public betrayal, Allam would speak to them no more.... hang on, sure I've heard this line before) then did such a volte-face that Pa Allam was pirouetting all the way from the bank to prove Barmby wrong. Disgusting, cheap behaviour to blacken the character of a man who dedicated his all to the club.
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| Apparently this is not true.
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| Quote ="MrsMorton"Apparently this is not true.'"
You mean Bruce never got the finances to recruit that Barmby begged for? What did happen, then?
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| Quote ="MrsMorton"Apparently this is not true.'"
Tbh Mate i hope your right
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| Craig Hall is a gifted attacking player whichever position you put him in the back line. Doesnt have the searing pace or strength to make him a truly effective winger however the try he scored against you (cant remember which game) where he plucked a kick out of the air one handed and got it down showed his ability. Lack of pace/strength also limit him as a fullback as his defence is also questionable and has brainfarts just the same as Eden. As a centre he can put his winger away better than welham or salter however centre is such an important defensive position that he gets found out.
I really think his best position is 6, he has a good running game and can create things out of nothing and his kicking game isnt that bad either. If you put him alongside an organising 7 who can lead the team around the park and let craig have a bit of creative freedom to do his stuff, with a consistent run in the team he could be effective. Unfortunately hes not going to get that chance whilst we have tubby gob5hit3 burns as Sanderock loves him. Tough one cos I do think Burns is a good player but similarly needs the same kind of 7 next to him as I described for Hall (..DOBSON) ha as of yet neither are effective for us because Keating isnt performing yet and im not sure he will ever be the organiser we need.
For you lot he would be decent cover for the wing, slightly better cover for centre but as I say a better option at 6.. however you have a lot of options there already so unless Radford can guarantee him a starting place which I doubt, I dont see what he would gain from switching back to you. However if he has had a spat with Sandy he might want the change back to his supposed old pal Radford.
Time will tell but to be honest I dont think either of our teams are what he needs to kick on in his career, but similarly I really dont know what team could give him a starting place as a 6 which is where I think he would be best.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"You mean Bruce never got the finances to recruit that Barmby begged for? What did happen, then?'"
think she might be referring to the thread main theme that hall may not be coming
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| Quote ="the artist"think she might be referring to the thread main theme that hall may not be coming'"
Ah, right. Cheers for that. Apologies, MrsMorton, if that is the case.
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| Hope it's not true. I really can't see where he would fit into our team unless we are going to try and turn him into a stand off. I certainly wouldn't drop any of the current back five for him.
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| IMO Craig Hall gets better the less he plays. He's often the answer to all our ills when he doesn't play but the scape goat for when things go wrong.
As others have said, his better games for us have been as a makeshift 6. He offers a decent running game, decent hands 'most' of the time and gives the ball a good kick be it drop out/conversion/distance. On the flip side he's prone to dropping the ball with no pressure and fails to find touch all too often. TBF I'd have him in our team right now wing/centre/stand off. But that doesn't look like happening if the rumour CH and CS have had a fallout.
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| Had a few words with sandercock but not leaving
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| Quote ="hullandbroncos"Had a few words with sandercock but not leaving'"
Not now Gleeson's indisposed. Coincidence, that.
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| Quote ="MrsMorton"Apparently this is not true.'"
Thank The Lord for that!
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| Quote ="fun time frankie"The allams are the only reason city are were they are now they bailed them out otherwise they would have been in administration'"
what`s this got to do with hullfc
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| Quote ="edinburgh yorkie"what`s this got to do with hullfc
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I think A.P. being slagged off by some started it off.
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| He'd never play for Hull again. None starter.
People will believe owt it seems.
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| Quote ="teddypicker"He'd never play for Hull again. None starter.
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Maybe they meant F. Hall.
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| sustained a ruptured testicle in tonight's game - ouch
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