We can rule Jeff Robson out, he's signed a two year deal with cronulla.

Good.

I'd like to see the RFL try to count it on the cap.

Of course they would, we just can't pay people off and it not.

There's a difference between paying someone off and payments to a de-registered player.

what if we pay leigh 20k for him and they pay him 15k right now to leave. he then comes to us and plays for free. that must be a loophole

Maybe.

So you want Leigh to break the salary cap?

why?

any news on brett seymour regarding his future

are leigh at the salary cap ?? they havent been for years

if agar has any sense,he will now let obst and horne occupy the half spots till the end of the season.granted neither has a good kicking game,but they where doing fairly well.fair enough long came back to replace obst,but moving horne to fullback was a mistake.no wonder our attack stutters when we keep moving players around.looking at ellis,i think he could make it long term,but looks overweight for a top class scrum half to me.

Wild suggestion, but could we perhaps get away with a player swap deal?
Just give Leigh some compo for loosing Ellis

5 grand hardly makes it worth their while.

Do we have anyone they'd want/need more than Ellis though? The fact that we'd be trading as a way to get him would suggest not.

Why would a player leave Hull for Leigh? Their about to go bankrupt.

If we don't have any room on the cap we won't be signing him.

Another valid stumbling block.

The only realistic way is to offer Leigh a fee, if it's accepted try and renegotiate Ellis' 2 year deal to compensate him.

What he'd live on until November I haven't a clue.

Sounds like administration is looming.No doubt someone or somebody will come in after,like Glover at Wakey.From what i was told earlier in the week staff haven't received their wages neither.

Even though it's a live cap and you can back load contracts if memory serves me right you can't have a player on no salary or even very little.

I'd be interested to see what room were making with no win bounses.

Win bonuses don't count iirc, as long as a players bonus is not disproportionate to his wage.

Don't think we'll even consider the idea, unless Leigh do go under and he's practically given to us.

Just to put a few misconceptions about the Salary Cap to bed...

1. The 'live cap' just means that a club's SC is assessed continually during the year and that clubs have to get permission for any transaction that changes their SC during the season.

2. Wages count for the full year as soon as a player takes part in a single SC relevant match. It doesn't matter if he leaves mid-season, or even joins mid-season - his wages count as if he is available and playing for the entire season.

3. De-registration does not affect cap liability due to 2 above.

4. Win bonuses DO count. Prize money doesn't.

Cap regulations are available in Section E of the [url=http://www.therfl.co.uk/operational_rulesOperational Rules[/url.

So, a player plays one game, is then transferred to another club (not necessarily the clubs fault) his full salary is counted? Sorry, I just don't see it being as black & white as that.

The first and second points contradict each other aswell.

Not if you stopped paying him, why would Long leave the club without the rest of this years salary?

I'm not saying he would.

Doesn't matter anyway, the way the rules are wrote, even if we don't pay him it still counts.