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| Quote ="ChrisH"Fair point but at the moment just him going would be a positive on the basis a change is as good as a rest. A temorary arrangement - as we should have done when Sharp went - for a few months with Webster and Long say would get us through to the middle of the year when announcements could be made to get that boost for 2012.'"
That'd work, but I think the 8 is pretty much there for you anyway, I'd be v.surprised if you missed out. Wakey and Crusaders started -4, Catalans and Salford look really poor and Quins will fade badly when the pitches harden up. That would leave 9 teams fighting for 8 places, would be really shocked if FC weren't in there.
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| Quote ="barham red"That'd work, but I think the 8 is pretty much there for you anyway, I'd be v.surprised if you missed out. Wakey and Crusaders started -4, Catalans and Salford look really poor and Quins will fade badly when the pitches harden up. That would leave 9 teams fighting for 8 places, would be really shocked if FC weren't in there.'"
Easy for you to say You're probably right but 8th then what? 9th , makes no difference really and that's the problem we know we ain't going to win anything or even get close. Just don't see the point of waiting for the inevitable and losing more bums on seats in the meantime.
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| Wakey and Crusaders may have started on -4 but that deficit has already been halved after two games. If things don't change at the club there's no way we'll make the top eight - the opening two performances of the season tell you that much. There's clearly not much heart, spirit or cohesion in the squad and it stands out like a sore thumb. We were brilliant at Saints on the opening night of 2010 but at the minute a performance like that (with pretty much the same squad of players) seems a million miles away.
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| Quote ="lummy"Tony, Blacklock, Yeaman, Whiting, Raynor, R. Horne, Brough, Dowes, Swain, Carvell, McMenemy, Kearney, Cooke. Replacements: Thackray, King, Chester, Saxton.
If that's the 2005 challenge cup winning team. Blacklock played fullback that day and Tony was on the wing
We all know the match this team sheet relates to.
Man for man, probably not too much difference to the current set up in terms of individual ability.
The difference is that everybody to a man is in their correct position and so crucially we have a top 6,7,9 and 13 all where they should be.
It really is quite a simple game isn't it.'"
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| I made a mess of that. As I was saying at Cardiff 05 Blacklock was fullback and Tony was on the wing
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| Quote ="FC MONK"I made a mess of that. As I was saying at Cardiff 05 Blacklock was fullback and Tony was on the wing'"
So its all Blacklock`s fault then?
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| No Agar's fault. Everything is Agar's fault including Global Warming
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| So Blacklock was Agar's fault too?
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how hard can it be to improve on Richard Agar’s usual tactics of fielding players out of position?"
sums most feelings up at present doesnt it
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how hard can it be to improve on Richard Agar’s usual tactics of fielding players out of position?"
sums most feelings up at present doesnt it
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN""
how hard can it be to improve on Richard Agar’s usual tactics of fielding players out of position?"
sums most feelings up at present doesnt it'"
are you feeling ok?
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| Quote ="garry brindley"icon_eek.gif
are you feeling ok?'"
you forget I want the club to win trophies too, i can see the issues too, i hear a lot more than most too, and i know the issues going on internally too , maybe you just listen to the sheep on here too much...
no one person is bigger than the club.. if it aint broke dont fix it but if it is broke then fix it quickly ... things are broken at present and the club, the terraces and the whole nine yards is a very unhappy place to be isnt it
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"you forget I want the club to win trophies too, i can see the issues too, i hear a lot more than most too, and i know the issues going on internally too , maybe you just listen to the sheep on here too much...
no one person is bigger than the club.. if it aint broke dont fix it but if it is broke then fix it quickly ... things are broken at present and the club, the terraces and the whole nine yards is a very unhappy place to be isnt it'"
Finally sussed it
You're Webbo! Did you argue with Richard during the match on Friday or not?
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"you forget I want the club to win trophies too, i can see the issues too, i hear a lot more than most too, and i know the issues going on internally too , maybe you just listen to the sheep on here too much...
no one person is bigger than the club.. if it aint broke dont fix it but if it is broke then fix it quickly ... things are broken at present and the club, the terraces and the whole nine yards is a very unhappy place to be isnt it'"
Good heavens. It wasn't that long ago that Agar was one of the top coaches in SL according to you. Now, all of a sudden, things are 'broken'. And yet you accuse others of being 'sheep' when they've been able to see the problems all along. How very odd.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"Good heavens. It wasn't that long ago that Agar was one of the top coaches in SL according to you. Now, all of a sudden, things are 'broken'. And yet you accuse others of being 'sheep' when they've been able to see the problems all along. How very odd.'"
He's also Dobbo Hull. Hard keeping up with all those usernames when you're talking to yourself.
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| We need a coach who actually will live in Hull while coaching us, agar lives 40 mins away. He doesn't feel the pain and hurt of a defeat, he never see's the fans in the street looking dejected after a derby loss. Lokk at justin Morgan he lives in Hull and talks to the rovers fans. Also sometimes I feel as though we should just change our name to leeds rhinos reserves with bloody kath hethrington taking a big wage bill and just pumping it straight through to leeds rhinos. AGAR AND HETHRINGTON OUT !!!!
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN""
how hard can it be to improve on Richard Agar’s usual tactics of fielding players out of position?"
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I would hope we'd have more names in the hat then just those two.
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| Quote ="B0NES"I would hope we'd have more names in the hat then just those two.'"
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"you forget I want the club to win trophies too, i can see the issues too, i hear a lot more than most too, and i know the issues going on internally too , maybe you just listen to the sheep on here too much...
no one person is bigger than the club.. if it aint broke dont fix it but if it is broke then fix it quickly ... things are broken at present and the club, the terraces and the whole nine yards is a very unhappy place to be isnt it'"
Nope, you've just done a massive u turn after you realise what a massive idiot you have been
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| When is the fourth round games played? We need Agar gone before this game or we will be out of that as well
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Nope, you've just done a massive u turn after you realise what a massive idiot you have been'"
Exactly, talk about back peddling.
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| Quote ="hull smallears"Nope, you've just done a massive u turn after you realise what a massive idiot you have been'"
Yeah but its better to do a u turn than carry on being an idiot.
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| To be fair Expro's behaviour is consistent with someone who works with the team. Back the boss to the hilt for as long as you can because if his job is secure then so is your own, but if it becomes clear he's on his way out then you change your tune sharpish and distance yourself as much as you can from his regime in the hope that you aren't tarred with the same brush and shown the door too.
I'm sure that's just a coincidence mind
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| Quote ="barham red"That'd work, but I think the 8 is pretty much there for you anyway, I'd be v.surprised if you missed out. Wakey and Crusaders started -4, Catalans and Salford look really poor and Quins will fade badly when the pitches harden up. That would leave 9 teams fighting for 8 places, would be really shocked if FC weren't in there.'"
Being absolutely honest, I think with Agar in charge we're about 8-10th. Based on the squads and what we saw from teams last year, as well as the limited evidence from the opening 2 rounds, I think you can almost split SL into little groups with where they're likely to finish:
1-2: Wigan & Warrington
3-5: Saints, Huddersfield & Leeds
6-7: Rovers & Bradford
8-10: Crusaders, Castleford & Hull
11-14: Harlequins, Wakefield, Catalans & Salford.
Crusaders look to be more than the sum of their parts whereas we're less than ours, and Cas will be their usual good attack and weak defence. If we don't improve our defence I think that attack will therefore nick them results where we won't.
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