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| Quote ="Chris28"Agree with all of that (except the spelling of field
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[uHas to go if what we understand to be the truth is actually the truth[/u'"
Very good point....however Agar told Radio Humberside in the after match interview Tansey was dropped for discipline reasons, so does that not make it 3 times he has broken the rules, it does not have to be the same rule on all 3 occasions it could be 3 different rules.
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| Quote ="Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006"how did we go about it when we sacked michael smith, when he was seen coming out of waterfront aka suger mill.=#0000FF A FEW HOURS b4 a game'"
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Either way I would support Agar in his call.'"
Bang on Paul.
Although reluctantly, enough is enough for me.
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| Quote ="kingston droolers"Meeting was tuesday so have we been told owt yet?'"
If the meeting was Tuesday he may well have been sacked.
Reason?
If he has been sacked and has appealed the club can't say anything until his appeal has been heard.
If it was dealt with any other way they could have announced it by now.
But why present him with the No1 shirt on Monday if you're going to sack him on Tuesday?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Tough call for Agar. One part of me thinks he has had enough chances so sack him. Another part of me thinks he is a good attacking player for us (and god do we need those) and especially as we already two players light then is it worth giving him one last chance.
If I were making the call I would probably give him one more chance and also make him apologise to his teammates.
Either way I would support Agar in his call.'"
Is it Agar's call?
Sure Rule will take Agar's views into account but I wouldn't expect him to have the final say.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"If the meeting was Tuesday he may well have been sacked.
Reason?
If he has been sacked and has appealed the club can't say anything until his appeal has been heard.
If it was dealt with any other way they could have announced it by now.
[uBut why present him with the No1 shirt on Monday if you're going to sack him on Tuesday[/u?'"
Because his meeting was not whilst Tuesday, it was then the investigation would have started, interviews etc...and until all the information is available a decision cannot be reached . Monday will already have been arranged/booked before Tansey did what he did.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Is it Agar's call?
Sure Rule will take Agar's views into account but I wouldn't expect him to have the final say.'"
Agreed I would of thought it's the boards call, after all he's employed by the club not Agar.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Because his meeting was not whilst Tuesday, it was then the investigation would have started, interviews etc...and until all the information is available a decision cannot be reached . Monday will already have been arranged/booked before Tansey did what he did.'"
They could always have held the disciplinary meeting before Monday evening. As I understand it the incident in question took place the previous Monday.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Because his meeting was not whilst Tuesday, it was then the investigation would have started, interviews etc...and until all the information is available a decision cannot be reached . Monday will already have been arranged/booked before Tansey did what he did.'"
also i suppose if tanseys sponsor was there then things would of had to go ahead as n ormal,not cheap to sponsor a player is it.
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| Quote ="Smiggs"Agreed I would of thought it's the boards call, after all he's employed by the club not Agar.'"
Correct..Agar will have been interviewed the same as Tansey and any-one else involved, then whoever (I reckon Rule) will make the decision, then his right of appeal would maybe go to Kath, just my guess though
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| Quote ="wolfie"also i suppose if tanseys sponsor was there then things would of had to go ahead as n ormal,not cheap to sponsor a player is it.'"
Yes, I bet his sponsor was less than pleased as well
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| Quote ="wolfie"also i suppose if tanseys sponsor was there then things would of had to go ahead as n ormal,not cheap to sponsor a player is it.'"
Can't have been a particularly enjoyable night for Tansey or his sponsor when everyone in the room knew what was going on.
BTW how much does it cost to sponsor a player?
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Can't have been a particularly enjoyable night for Tansey or his sponsor when everyone in the room knew what was going on.
BTW how much does it cost to sponsor a player?'"
4 cans of special brew in his case.
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Can't have been a particularly enjoyable night for Tansey or his sponsor when everyone in the room knew what was going on.
BTW how much does it cost to sponsor a player?'"
He was sat on the table behind me and didnt look very comfortable been there tbh
costs about £2500 to sponsor the top players.
not sure about lesser players,reece,jack biscoe and nicklas were on my table as the roy waudby foundation sponsor all 3 of them.
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| [url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/11/02/03/RUGBYL_Hull.html&BID=480Proceedings ongoing (after the bit about Fitz)[/url
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/11/02/03/RUGBYL_Hull.html&BID=480Proceedings ongoing (after the bit about Fitz)[/url'"
(Sorry, just seen that and made a new thread )
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"[url=http://www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague/11/02/03/RUGBYL_Hull.html&BID=480Proceedings ongoing (after the bit about Fitz)[/url'"
Cant think of an overseas player better suited to captaining that side if it comes off.
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Quote James Rule has confirmed full-back Jordan Tansey remains subject to an internal disciplinary investigation after he was omitted from Sunday's friendly win at Castleford for off-field reasons.'"
www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480
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www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague ... ml&BID=480
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| I find it mildy amusing people here are saying he should be sacked when you don't know what the discipline procedure is within the club nor what the breaches are. It isn't as straightforward as some are suggesting that Tansey be dismissed without almost any hesitation. No-one here knows whether his last discipline put him on a final written, nor if this breach was of a type that leads to a summary dismissal. Not only will any investigation have to be thorough and fair but the procedure needs to be followed implicitly otherwise wrongful dismisal could be pursued.
To suggest the club is waiting on other outcomes re players as to whether they dismiss Tansey is to my mind nonsense. If the breach would ordinarily mean he would be dismissed then no other outside influence would make any difference otherwise you are setting a very dangerous precedence and make a mockery of the discipline procedure.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I find it mildy amusing people here are saying he should be sacked when you don't know what the discipline procedure is within the club nor what the breaches are. It isn't as straightforward as some are suggesting that Tansey be dismissed without almost any hesitation. No-one here knows whether his last discipline put him on a final written, nor if this breach was of a type that leads to a summary dismissal. Not only will any investigation have to be thorough and fair but the procedure needs to be followed implicitly otherwise wrongful dismisal could be pursued.
To suggest the club is waiting on other outcomes re players as to whether they dismiss Tansey is to my mind nonsense. If the breach would ordinarily mean he would be dismissed then no other outside influence would make any difference otherwise you are setting a very dangerous precedence and make a mockery of the discipline procdure.'"
Thank you Perry Mason.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"I find it mildy amusing people here are saying he should be sacked when you don't know what the discipline procedure is within the club nor what the breaches are. It isn't as straightforward as some are suggesting that Tansey be dismissed without almost any hesitation. No-one here knows whether his last discipline put him on a final written, nor if this breach was of a type that leads to a summary dismissal. Not only will any investigation have to be thorough and fair but the procedure needs to be followed implicitly otherwise wrongful dismisal could be pursued.
To suggest the club is waiting on other outcomes re players as to whether they dismiss Tansey is to my mind nonsense. If the breach would ordinarily mean he would be dismissed then no other outside influence would make any difference otherwise you are setting a very dangerous precedence and make a mockery of the discipline procdure.'"
1. The club's disciplinary procedure will be the same standard procedure followed by all well-run businesses
2. He was on a final written warning from last time
3. The latest breach of discipline was of a similar nature to his previous breaches
4. Waiting on outcomes re other players may be nonsense and may set a dangerous precedent but that doesn't mean its impossible that it is taking place.
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| Quote ="berrigans bitch"Because his meeting was not whilst Tuesday, it was then the investigation would have started, interviews etc...and until all the information is available a decision cannot be reached . Monday will already have been arranged/booked before Tansey did what he did.'"
Guess his sponsor could have worn the shirt huh
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| Quote ="Lee Tucker FC Fan 2006"www.sportinglife.com/rugbyleague/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=rleague%2F11%2F02%2F03%2FRUGBYL_Hull.html&BID=480'"
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| Quote ="Nobeerineasthull"Is it Agar's call?
Sure Rule will take Agar's views into account but I wouldn't expect him to have the final say.'"
Absolutely Agar's call, I think the club would back and endorse any decision he wanted.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Cant think of an overseas player better suited to captaining that side if it comes off.'"
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