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| Quote ="Wellsy13"I don't think it was the wrong pass. He had Whiting on his inside, who was being chased (and we all know he's not the fastest!). But Turner?! What an absolute idiot for passing back instead of scoring an easy try. Cost us 4-6 points with that brainfart.'"
As you say the pass option was fine it was enirely Turners fault we didn't score there. He had pretty much a clear run to the line and also had Lynham on his shoulder. Just another in a growing list of basic errors he's been making this year.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"As you say the pass option was fine it was enirely Turners fault we didn't score there. He had pretty much a clear run to the line and also had Lynham on his shoulder. Just another in a growing list of basic errors he's been making this year.'"
And not doing anything to rectify them either......Been making mistakes since we got him and god help Sts with him...hope he is up against Yeamo when we play them nxt season.
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| Can't kick, can't pass leave him on the wing
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| Quote ="Black and white v2"Can't kick, can't pass leave him on the wing'"
You realise that everyone knows you're a Rovers fan don't you?
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"You realise that everyone knows you're a Rovers fan don't you?'"
Don`t spoil it.
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| I think with a full back these days you have to look at a player who is almost another half then attacking the line and has that skill set.
McKinnon could do this, so does Tomkins week in week out. Would you even think to play Briscoe at 6 or 7 out of desperaton? I dont think so. So even with his other attributes I wouldnt want him as the starting full back.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"You realise that everyone knows you're a Rovers fan don't you?'"
I am unsure where this has come from so please, enlighten me?
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| Briscoe needs to stay on the wing. He's one of the top wingers in the world and so should be played there. We just need to give him better service.
As good as his running game is, a fullback isn't just about that. They need to have good hands and creativity, joining into the line as an extra runner or pivot. I would rather play Horne at fullback than Briscoe, however I would prefer it if we signed a good specialist fullback (not McDonnell).
For next season I would like to see a backline of:
New FB, Lineham, Yeaman, Crooks, Briscoe
Ben Crooks would need to bulk up a bit, which would help his tackling too. I think that players like Crooks and Lineham have earned their position and deserve to stay there.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"And not doing anything to rectify them either......Been making mistakes since we got him and god help Sts with him...hope he is up against Yeamo when we play them nxt season.'"
If Brown makes a top centre of him, fair play, but he's certainly got his work cut out. Me and my Dad were on about him yesterday and we wouldn't be surprised if he was more of a McManus signing than Brown, possibly looked at him at their place and thought he was big, quick and young, and hoped Brown could mould him into a similar player to Cudjoe. Don't see it happening personally.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"If Brown makes a top centre of him, fair play, but he's certainly got his work cut out. Me and my Dad were on about him yesterday and we wouldn't be surprised if he was more of a McManus signing than Brown, possibly looked at him at their place and thought he was=#0000FF big, quick and young, and hoped Brown could mould him into a similar player to Cudjoe. Don't see it happening personally.'"
Imo that sounds just like a player that Brown likes aswell. Cudjoe, McGilvary, Lawerence.
He'll certainly have his work cut out with him though as you say.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Imo that sounds just like a player that Brown likes aswell. Cudjoe, McGilvary, Lawerence.
He'll certainly have his work cut out with him though as you say.'"
Yeah, sorry, I didn't quite word it properly. What I was meaning to say was that I think maybe it's [ibecause[/i McManus has seen that Turner has a couple of attributes to fit the mould that Brown seems to have done well with that he has signed him, but he's neglected to notice his (not insignificant) flaws and just assumed that Brown will do the business with him. I couldn't believe the blurb about him being an excellent defender when it was announced, and I don't believe that Brown is daft enough to share the opinion, either.
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| Quote ="Black and white v2"I am unsure where this has come from so please, enlighten me?'"
Just ignore. Your comment on Briscoe wasn't exactly complimentory and he probably had a quick scan of your posts and thought he'd found something else to tie in, seems clear to me you are B&W and not a Rovers Troll which is what ComeOnYouUll seems to be insinuating.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Horne misses more games than he plays, squad player at best from next season for me if he's still playing for Hull.
Briscoe back on the wing for next season for me along with Lineham on the other. Meaning hopefully a fullback will be brought in.'"
More or less go along with that, but question marks over Jason Crookes if confirmed, who may challenge for Linehams wing spot and don't think that there has been any confirmation on Will Sharp for next season, starting too look like we may not have needed J Crookes
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"More or less go along with that, but question marks over Jason Crookes if confirmed, who may challenge for Linehams wing spot and don't think that there has been any confirmation on Will Sharp for next season, =#0000FFstarting too look like we may not have needed J Crookes'"
If Sharp is to go at the end of the season then another winger will be needed. Wether that is Crookes or someone else, but we need a third winger.
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"Just ignore. Your comment on Briscoe wasn't exactly complimentory and he probably had a quick scan of your posts and thought he'd found something else to tie in, seems clear to me you are B&W and not a Rovers Troll which is what ComeOnYouUll seems to be insinuating.'"
Thanks I think Briscoe is a world class winger but we should leave him there. Too many times we have made a promising player switch positions and there development has suffered because of it
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| For me, a fullback is a third playmaker in attack, Tom Briscoe as good as he is ain't a playmaker.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"If Sharp is to go at the end of the season then another winger will be needed. Wether that is Crookes or someone else, but we need a third winger.'"
You seem to be forgetting Sir Richard of Whiting
To be fair I only meant we may not need J Crookes if Sharp were to stay, but we also have Ben Crooks who can cover the wing position.
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| Quote ="Black and white v2"Thanks I think Briscoe is a world class winger but we should leave him there. Too many times we have made a promising player switch positions and there development has suffered because of it'"
I agree we should keep him on the wing next season, but I think he is already proving he could be good cover at fullback and it would be interesting to know his thoughts having had a couple of runs in the role. Hopefully we have a specialist full back to be announced on 4th Sept if not then I would prefer Briscoe or McGoldrick (if retained) as opposed to Horne.
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| Quote ="Gerrum on side ref"I agree we should keep him on the wing next season, but I think he is already proving he could be good cover at fullback and it [uwould be interesting to know his thoughts having had a couple of runs in the role[/u. Hopefully we have a specialist full back to be announced on 4th Sept if not then I would prefer Briscoe or McGoldrick (if retained) as opposed to Horne.'"
spoke to him on that very subject on sunday,says hes enjoying it and will do what ever is needed,but he did say he will just get used to it then will prob get moved
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| Shocking.
Not skilful enough for a FB, poor positionaly and still makes basic errors.
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| Like Briscoe's performance tonight, this thread wasn't my best !
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| Probably his worst game for us tonight. Hopefully he just puts it out of his head and moves on.
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| Ah, the trolls are here. Taken longer than expected though.
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| Modern day FBs are just like another HB, what Tom Briscoe is not. Class winger, yes. Fullback, nope.
Should have sacked off Foster, started Horne at FB and had Green on the bench. Not that it would have made much difference!
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