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| Quote ="PAUL M"He has served his ban and should be left along to get on with playing again. He's a top player who made a mistake.'"
Well said mate, enough from the god likes on here who have never done anything wrong, he made a mistake and paid his price now lets move on eh??
he himself admits he was a chump for doing it and has since been exemplary in his rehab time
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| Quote ="TheMole"The standing ovation was to congratulate him on realising what a fool he had been and for turning his life around like he has, it was not to condone what he had done.
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well said, lad is a true champion for getting through ... hope he smashes his way back into GB contention.
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| Quote ="chico's nose"I fully appreciate that people deserve a second chance, but I found the standing ovation he got from the Wigan crowd and the constant drivel spouted by Hemmings and Stevo disgraceful.'"
So what should the Wigan fans have done then? booed him or just sat in silence. Whatever he's done in the past he's obviously worked hard to turn his life around and get himself ready to play once his ban was up and I don't see why it's disgraceful that he got a big ovation from the Wigan fans. I think you're going a bit over the top here.
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| they just all jelous that we have one of the best forwards in the game back after suspension
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| Quote ="truewiganer"they just all jelous that we have one of the best forwards in the game back after suspension'"
I don't think anyone would disagree he's a good player, personally I am not jealous in the slightest.
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| Quote ="truewiganer"they just all jelous that we have one of the best forwards in the game back after suspension'"
Wigan fans seriously need to get over themselves.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Wigan fans seriously need to get over themselves.'"
I wonder when "truewiganer" started following them?
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't think anyone would disagree he's a good player, personally I am not jealous in the slightest.'"
Great player agreed , but like you say no one is jealous .... we got a manu instead
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| Quote ="Standee"I wonder when "truewiganer" started following them?'"
on his 9th birthday aparently, according to his dad he enjoyed his party last week enormously at the wacky warehouse but the funny coloured icing made him wee himself later
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| Quote ="Standee"I wonder when "truewiganer" started following them?'"
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| Quote ="truewiganer"15 years ago'"
you see he was following them when even in liquid form
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| Quote ="Dan_FC"So what should the Wigan fans have done then? booed him or just sat in silence. Whatever he's done in the past he's obviously worked hard to turn his life around and get himself ready to play once his ban was up and I don't see why it's disgraceful that he got a big ovation from the Wigan fans. I think you're going a bit over the top here.'"
Because of the roll on roll off nature of interchanges in RL, more often then not they take place without half the crowd realising. Yes, often fans might recognise a good effort from a particular player with a round of applause as he leaves the pitch, but very rearely do you see a standing ovation like the one Hock got. As I said in my original post, I believe Hock deserves a second chance, but the warm welcome back into RL is OTT considering he has served a drugs ban imo.
Many players in various sports have off the field issues and turn their life around but not all get a standing O. Should Stan Collymore have got one for turning round his life after beating up Ulrika Johnson? What about Rooney,surely he deserves one for not been with a mucky pro for several months? Namby pamby b*****ks imo the lad should have been welcomed onto the pitch like a regular interchang and not given some type of heros welcome.
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| It wasnt a month ago there was posters on here that was creaming themselves because Hock was 'signing' for you men. Get over yourselves, hes served his punishment let him get on with it. I didnt see you lot taking the moral high ground with Cooke when he was going around b=#FF0000being naughty.
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| Quote ="Bill_Barlow"It wasnt a month ago there was posters on here that was creaming themselves because Hock was 'signing' for you men. Get over yourselves, hes served his punishment let him get on with it. I didnt see you lot taking the moral high ground with Cooke when he was going around =#FF0000being naughty.
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Unless you can prove that the posters who are now criticising Hock were the same who were praising him earlier you don't really have a point. And a fair few criticised Cooke for his behaviour - some of us even wanted him sacked.
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| Quote ="truewiganer"15 years ago'"
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All of us? Should I let the board know truewiganer is now club spokesman?
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| Quote ="Catalancs"All of us? Should I let the board know truewiganer is now club spokesman?'"
TBF I was also thinking of the Sam Tomkins thread on the VT when I made that comment.
How about I insert the word 'some' into it?
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| Quote ="Kosh"TBF I was also thinking of the Sam Tomkins thread on the VT when I made that comment.
How about I insert the word 'some' into it?
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Good idea squire. That way you could change 'Wigan' for any other club depending on the thread
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| I'm glad Hock has comeback and hope takes his second chance within the sport. If the Wigan fans want to clap him who's to say they shouldn't? Been told you can't do your job for 2 years is hard enough especially when you know/realise you've made a right of yourself and let your family & friends down. Showing support to someone who hopefully has changed for the better and maybe help others is fine by me.
HOWEVER, all this talk of the drug he took as NOT performance enhancing obviously do not understand the nature of the drug itself and how it can affect physical performance in the short term after taking it.
I'm happy I know what I'm talking about. So yes, Hock was(past tense) a drugs cheat in terms of its ability to enhance and not just as a recreational drug. The ban length was correct but I think allowing any person back even just to train within the sport BEFORE the ban period is up is completely wrong.
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| Would he still be taking the drug had he not been found out.
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| Quote ="jampot"Would he still be taking the drug had he not been found out.'"
Would Gleeson and Long still be using their inside knowledge to bet against their own team?
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| Quote ="Mr.Side"Would Gleeson and Long still be using their inside knowledge to bet against their own team?'"
Yawn, hardly comparable, run along.
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| Quote ="Standee"Yawn, hardly comparable, run along.'"
How is it not?
Its still against the rules, which ever way you look at it.
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| Why is it okay to talk about Gareth hock but not to talk about cockayne and watts?
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"Why is it okay to talk about Gareth hock but not to talk about cockayne and watts?'"
Probably because Hock's been found guilty and served his ban whereas the other two have only just been suspended and it'll be slander to discuss what we think's happened.
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| Quote ="joetwizzy"Why is it okay to talk about Gareth hock but not to talk about cockayne and watts?'"
This discussion started about the reaction to Hock's return and the issue or drugs in SL and the legnth of the ban etc. If it was purely a case oif how good is Hock then it would not be here.
If you want to discuss Rovers players then use their board, it's only slightly down from this one, it's not hard.
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