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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"That's the point entirely. Of course he's capable of doing good things, but he's not consistent enough to make it at this level.
Surely you don't believe this. He was promising as a youngster, but didn't progress as well as his early promise suggested he might. It happens. A lot.
Of course. Goes without saying!'"
Seems to happen to us more than other clubs...Lee and Thackry didnt do it either......How would you feel if you had 1 bad game and was dropped when others are as bad....Hall will always be a scapegoat.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Seems to happen to us more than other clubs...Lee and Thackry didnt do it either......[uHow would you feel if you had 1 bad game and was dropped [/u when others are as bad....Hall will always be a scapegoat.'"
Hall's played 60 odd games for FC. If he'd delivered consistently he'd have forced his way into the first team, like Houghton and Whiting have done.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Seems to happen to us more than other clubs...Lee and Thackry didnt do it either......'"
How do you know it happens to us more than others? Do you keep abreast of every prospect coming through every club? I think you'll find it just seems like it happens to us more because you notice it more when it's our club.
Quote ="fc baldy"How would you feel if you had 1 bad game and was dropped when others are as bad....Hall will always be a scapegoat.'"
He's not a scapegoat. Really, he isn't. He's just not as good overall as most (if not all) of the other first team players. If he set the world alight in the games he did play, he wouldn't get dropped.
I think a useful measure of how good a player he is would be the number of clubs interested in him should he become available, and, more importantly, their league positions. Do you seriously think Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Wire or Hudds would want him?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Hall's played 60 odd games for FC. If he'd delivered consistently he'd have forced his way into the first team, like Houghton and Whiting have done.'"
I would like to know how many he has had in 1 go in the cntres.........Houghton is a daft option as he is a bloody hooker and has had to come in and has had only 1 person to vie with and in this game now you use 2 hookers anyway.
Whiting is a 100% and can cover a variety of roles......you have made it clear you dont like Hall....i personally think he is the best attacking centre at the club and yes his defence is dodgy.......i will personally take the word of a ex Widnes player who played with Hall last season over a accountant who only rates someone if he has nice legs and .
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"How do you know it happens to us more than others? Do you keep abreast of every prospect coming through every club? I think you'll find it just seems like it happens to us more because you notice it more when it's our club.
He's not a scapegoat. Really, he isn't. He's just not as good overall as most (if not all) of the other first team players. If he set the world alight in the games he did play, he wouldn't get dropped.
I think a useful measure of how good a player he is would be the number of clubs interested in him should he become available, and, more importantly, their league positions. Do you seriously think Wigan, Saints, Leeds, Wire or Hudds would want him?'"
Il keep to my opion thanks as last time i looked its a opinions board...not yours to make everyone think your way.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Il keep to my opion thanks as last time i looked its a opinions board...not yours to make everyone think your way.'"
Oh. How touchy.
I've never once asked you to change your opinion. You are as entitled to yours as I am to mine. Just as I'm entitled to debate it as robustly as I see fit. I merely asked you a question - do you think Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire or Hudds would be interested in Hall if he became available?
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Oh. How touchy.
I've never once asked you to change your opinion. You are as entitled to yours as I am to mine. Just as I'm entitled to debate it as robustly as I see fit. I merely asked you a question - do you think Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire or Hudds would be interested in Hall if he became available?'"
A english centre with potential......they should be.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"A english centre with potential......they should be.'" Really? An English centre who can't get in to a Hull FC team with injuries?
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| Quote ="fc baldy"A english centre with potential...'"
Or, alternatively, an English centre who has made 60-odd first team appearances for a club that hasn't done too well over the past few seasons and has failed to cement a regular starting place despite a massive injury list.
Quote ="fc baldy"...they should be.'"
Nice dodge. Do you think any of them [iwould[/i be?
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Oh. How touchy. '"
He is a bit tonight. Disappointed that Briscoe had a good game, no doubt.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Really? An English centre who can't get in to a Hull FC team with injuries?'"
Can he play prop?
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He is a bit tonight.
Disappointed that Briscoe had a good game, no doubt.
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How would i know if he did as i didnt go........Oh so Briscoe is open to critism then....earlier in the season he was making mistakes with Hall but nothing was said about him....he is going to be a hell of a winger but he does need to work on positional play as he does get caught out...im never dissapointed when players do well and the team wins.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"How would i know if he did as i didnt go........Oh [uso Briscoe is open to critism then.[/u...earlier in the season he was making mistakes with Hall but nothing was said about him....he is going to be a hell of a winger but he does need to work on positional play as he does get caught out...im never dissapointed when players do well and the team wins.'"
Won't hear a word against him.
Was a tough game today actually - the swirling wind was vicious and I was a bit worried about him under the bomb but he did pretty well.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Can he play prop?'" Calderwood's been out for most of the season.
Nobody else would want him except the bottom half teams, he's not good enough consistantly and Whiting shows him up completely on how to perform no matter were you're played.
[size=50Stand off for 20 mins today doesn't count![/size
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He is a bit tonight.
Disappointed that Briscoe had a good game, no doubt.
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Must be devastated that we won then. Our league position at this stage of the season makes his signature look totally ridiculous.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Must be devastated that we won then. Our league position at this stage of the season makes his signature look totally ridiculous.'"
Not to mention missing James Roby off O'Meley's bitched list.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Must be devastated that we won then. Our league position at this stage of the season makes his signature look totally ridiculous.'"
Shut up daft lad.......loving the fact we are 4th and as for signature.....i cant be d to alter it but i will do now just for you.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Calderwood's been out for most of the season.'"
And Turner has been in and out of the side before he finally got it together.
Quote ="east hull FC fan"[size=50Stand off for 20 mins today doesn't count![/size'"
He'll come good there if he gets a full game or two.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Shut up daft lad.......loving the fact we are 4th and as for signature.....i cant be d to alter it but i will do now just for you.'"
Touchy. Again.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"Not to mention missing James Roby off O'Meley's bitched list.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Oh. How touchy.
I've never once asked you to change your opinion. You are as entitled to yours as I am to mine. Just as I'm entitled to debate it as robustly as I see fit.=#0000FF I merely asked you a question - do you think Leeds, Wigan, Saints, Wire or Hudds would be interested in Hall if he became available?'"
Is this the new standard by which we judge our players?
Best get rid of most of them then, because I reckon there's only a handful who would interest those clubs.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"And Turner has been in and out of the side before he finally got it together.
He'll come good there if he gets a full game or two.'"
Whiting to stand off and Hall to wing....its the future i tell thee
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| Quote ="Kosh"Is this the new standard by which we judge our players?
Best get rid of most of them then, because I reckon there's only a handful who would interest those clubs.'"
Tansey
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I reckon any of the above would attract some interest from those clubs provided they had a need to recruit in their relevant positions. Long would have been one of them too if he wasn't crocked.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Whiting to stand off and Hall to wing....its the future i tell thee
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I wouldn't object to that in the short term. But like I said earlier, if we're going to improve we have to lose some of our current players and sign better ones. If we re-sign everyone, we'll just stay the same. Of all the players in the first team squad, I'd prefer to see Hall move on than any of the others. Followed by Washbrook. Not because I think they're [ibad[/i players, just that they're not [igood enough[/i if we want to be genuine contenders for silverware.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Tansey
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I reckon any of the above would attract some interest from those clubs =#0000FFprovided they had a need to recruit in their relevant positions. Long would have been one of them too if he wasn't crocked.'"
A new condition? How desperate a need are we talking here? Any other conditional modifiers you'd like to add?
Yeaman and Whiting have no place on that list IMO. Depending on what you count as Whiting's position. Berrigan would be borderline, as would Lauaki.
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