More or less exactly what I was going to say. Whitely, Knocker, topliss, Sterlo certainly fit the bill and I think I would add Swain and Rich Horne to that list. Smith was fantastic for his first 2 seasons here, but it grated on me a bit when he "retired" cos his body couldnt take the hits and then went and played another 3 years in the NRL for the Coeboys and the Raiders.

I will consider this some more as to whether there are any more to add. Raynor does not fit the bill though, athough he was very good.

Knocker, Topliss and Sterling are certainly worthy of the word "legend" as nearly 30 years after they last played for the club they are still put in most people's greatest Hull team and probably will be for many years to come.

Not sure you could say the same for Gareth Raynor, great player as he was.

Exactly, you've proven my point. How the hell can you have 50 legends?

Legend status is for those who are truly exceptional. OK, there may be a case for a few others, but 50?

Can you tell me what the other 40 odd on your list have done that is comparable to Whiteley's contribution to the club?

It be interesting to see if you could pick a starting 13 of legends. You'd certainly need input from people who are much older than us (and from history books). We shouldn't confuse legends with personal favourites and very good players.

What happened to the Hull FC hall of fame?

Do those t shirts they used to sell with toppo, knocker and sterlo on officially make them legends?

Indeed, which is why Jason Smith is nowhere near legend status, he may have been a decent player, but he certainly wasn't a model professional.

Just found the hall of fame on the website and it has schofield in it. Maybe it should be the hall of infamy



And paul eastwood.

Hall of Fame my backside

No Norton, Whiteley, Harrison or Crooks for a start!

so does that mean that paul cooke is a hull fc legend seen as he won the chellenge cup with us

jason smith is a legend he made us a better team when he was on the field

Funny you mention that Jason Smith shouldnt be classed as a legend because of his off the field behaviour, but want Crooks included in the hall of fame?

I think we all kmow that Crooks was no angel off the field.

Compared to Smith he was!

Lets face it the Hall of Fame is a joke at present, how can it even be taken seriously without Big JW??
Cooke should not be in there for what he did to the club and neither should a few others mentioned as they were bit parts over two seasons

Paul Eastwood can hold his head high at the KC my friend, have a quick squint back through the diaries and you have all the info you need but certainly for me a great but not legend!!
Legends to me encompass
Toppo
JW
Charlie Stone
Knocker
Paul Woods
etc etc , folk who made a difference with difference

Don't need to read through any diaries my friend to know about Paul Eastwood. Saw pretty much all of his games for the B&W's.

He certainly wasn't a great

how strange that many including the GB selectors thought different, when on form he was electric, but not a legend and I for one thought he was a great player !!
I also seem to be in the minority that thought Wilby was a decent player when he first showed!! whats wilby doing now???

Defining a legend is difficult as we can all argue on differing players merits.

1) Its what the player did for FC eg champions 5 Challenge cup 5 pioint regal trophy 4 points Play offs 2 Yorks cup 1 point

2) His Length of service 1 point a year

3) His standing nationally/internationally 5 points for being a full GB international 2 point for Home countries/SOO

4) His personal life and off field activities 10 points for a national honour, 3 points for Lance Todd, 2 points Harry Sunderland etc


Using this sort of system to make it fairer.

A rough check of that would mean some like John Whiteley would end up with very high marks and Peter Stirling would score quite low.

Would them have to be gained whilst at the club

If not Longs a legend already

Yes



I could and will argue that Peter Sterling was a great player and it was awesome to see him in a Hull shirt. He did IMHO hit the hieghts of say Toppo or JW on the back of two short ( very short) spells at FC.

lets be honest apart from best..raynor has been fc's top winger for nearly a decade..seeing as we aint had many good ones in the last 10 years...he was miles better than sing,blacklock etc....eastwood maybe???? not even mentioning the tripe we had when we was in the first division.!!!!!!!!

better than Eastwood, errrm, nope.

As good as Sing and Blacklock, no better, unless you count going sideways and assault charges.

Not as good as Eastwood, but agree better than Blacklock & Sing

miles better than both aussie imports...and as i said..better than anyone in the last 10 years beside best...

that's your opinion, I dont agree.

yes you dnt agree, but can you name me a better wing combo than raynor and best in the last 10 years??

Blacklock
Sing

as already stated

depends, if we're talking just on field performance then you have a point, I tend to not like violent, racist opinionated self-obsessed thugs.