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| Quote ="dano"i call it sad,do not come come bck saddo'"
Oh ok I won't then.
You don't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed but I will try and provide a bit of an insight for you. For some people (i.e. yourself), rugby is a basic thing where you turn up, drink beer, grunt a lot, sing songs and 'get behind the lads' whatever happens.
Others (i.e. me), have more analytical minds and through a desire to learn, have developed a deeper understanding of the workings of the game. Because of this we are able to understand what it takes to formulate a winning side, and, as in this case, be able to spot when things are going disastrously wrong. When you think like that it's quite hard to blindly cheer on the lads and just hope things get better, therefore you end up seeking ways (however futile) to try and improve the situation (in this case by seeking the removal of the coach). While this can be uncomfortable in the short-term, it is for the long-term good of the club.
I guess it's just about what you want out of the game
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"'"
I am not being snobbish about their style of play. Huddersfield have done very well this season there is no doubt, but I still wouldn't want my team to play like that.
Although John Kear and Peter Sharp had some success, the accusation of loosing the dressing room was aimed at both coaches before they where sacked. I personally liked Peter Sharp very much, and I'm sure he would have liked the leeway Richard Agar has had this season. The club have decided to go down this road, and as I posted earlier I am prepared to give him a fair shot.
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| Quote ="Uncle Junior"Wrong again, I prefer to go and boo and call for the manager's head. It's called being proactive.'" wrong again i go in nelly cranbrook ave come and talk about it
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| Quote ="dano"wrong again i go in nelly cranbrook ave come and talk about it'"
Well I think you've quoted the wrong post there, but....are you asking me out on a date?
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| Quote ="airliebird58"I am not being snobbish about their style of play. Huddersfield have done very well this season there is no doubt, but I still wouldn't want my team to play like that.
Although John Kear and Peter Sharp had some success, the accusation of loosing the dressing room was aimed at both coaches before they where sacked. I personally liked Peter Sharp very much, and I'm sure he would have liked the leeway Richard Agar has had this season. The club have decided to go down this road, and as I posted earlier I am prepared to give him a fair shot.'"
I agree that in principle I think it's great that the board have decided to give someone more time than they gave Kear and Sharp. I just find it frustrating that it happens to be Agar because nothing I see from him inspires any hope in me. Believe me though, if he clings on until next season and proves me wrong I'l be on here wolfing down humble pie and enjoying every mouthful!
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| On the plus side, you do have an 'A' licence
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| Quote ="fat ash"in my opinion that it is the players (well certain ones) that are to blame for our poor performances . Last week we showed comitment , and the ability to throw the ball about and showed interest .
tonight we looked awful and any desire to win the game seemed to , at least in the second half to be non existent .
we have shown we can do it , but only in games the playes can lift themselves for , derbys are easy to lift for , but i always said it would be this week that showed if we have turned a corner . we havent cause the same lack of passion showed through tonight .
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'"
Last week we played a team in nearly as poor form as us and almost got lucky. Tonight we played a team who are well drilled and well coached. That's the difference
The common denominator since mcrae left is that our coaches have got progressively worse
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| Quote ="dano"wrong again i go in nelly cranbrook ave come and talk about it'"
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| Quote ="fat ash"and why wouldn't it ?
lets not make scapegoats again thorman was no worse than anyone else on the field , apart from calderwood'"
Unlike some I've never come on here and slagged off the coach and players in particular.
On this occasion I feel it warrants comment as to the coaches thought process,when everyone can seewhat's been happening with Thormans confidence and general level of achievment on the field.
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| For me we were beaten by a bigger faster and far more competent team and no embarrssment in that.
In the first 30 minutes we had 3/4 tries dissalowed, they made 3 subs so 3 BIG FORWARDS go off and 3 BIG FORWARDS come on, we sub and on comes Moa Burnett and Thorman.
I honestly felt the majority of the guys tried last night but we could not live with the power, very similar to the Warrington game. Our bench was to light and we still do not have half backs and a loose who can link together and create openinings.
I stood at the end and clapped the players who tried, not booing the couple of wastes.
Remember they had a full team and playing with confidence we are a make shift team with not luck and poor coaching.
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| Quote ="fat ash" whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'"
theyve always been lead by a crap coach as well
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| Quote ="airliebird58"I am not being snobbish about their style of play. Huddersfield have done very well this season there is no doubt, but I still wouldn't want my team to play like that.Although John Kear and Peter Sharp had some success, the accusation of loosing the dressing room was aimed at both coaches before they where sacked. I personally liked Peter Sharp very much, and I'm sure he would have liked the leeway Richard Agar has had this season. The club have decided to go down this road, and as I posted earlier I am prepared to give him a fair shot.'"
Fair enough,thats your opinion ,but i would imagine given your current situation a fair few FC fans would like to be 2nd in the league and in the cup semi final - because thats where we have got playing like that !!
maybe your happy to see your team getting nilled at home and struggling near the bottom of the league - each to their own though
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| Quote ="GIANT DAZ"Fair enough,thats your opinion ,but i would imagine given your current situation a fair few FC fans would like to be 2nd in the league and in the cup semi final - because thats where we have got playing like that !!
maybe your happy to see your team getting nilled at home and struggling near the bottom of the league - each to their own though'"
FC possibly have the most boring brand of rugby league play in the league, it was only in their 'cup final' display against Rovers last week when they actually started throwing the ball around. Its been 5 drives and a kick for the rst of their games. Ive been highly impressed with the attacking play from Shudds this season
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Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"FC possibly have the most boring brand of rugby league play in the league, it was only in their 'cup final' display against Rovers last week when they actually started throwing the ball around. Its been 5 drives and a kick for the rst of their games. Ive been highly impressed with the attacking play from Shudds this season
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Interesting what you say about throwing the ball about and offloads:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 09&hp2=550
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Interesting what you say about throwing the ball about and offloads:
www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... 09&hp2=550
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Well if thats correct, Im astonished after watching all of your games that have been broadcast.
Guess I was wrong about the 5 drives and a kick comment?
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Well if thats correct, Im astonished after watching all of your games that have been broadcast.
Guess I was wrong about the 5 drives and a kick comment?
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"Well if thats correct, Im astonished after watching all of your games that have been broadcast.
Guess I was wrong about the 5 drives and a kick comment?'"
Nah it's 5 drives with the odd daft offload. I was suprised by the stats to be honest too.
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| Last night we witnessed a team playing that were devoid of ideas in attack. Plan "A" worked to a degree in the first ten minutes but we failed to put points on the board. Plan "B" consisted of moving the one player that looked like creating open play for our backs into the middle and replacing him with a player that couldnt create an opening on the Apprentice. That's poor coaching on both counts. OK, the players shoulder some of the blame but creating attacking plays and defence strategies are in the hands of the coach.
Last night we reverted to what we normally do when plan "A" fails - 5 drives and a kick. Again, blame the coach. We never see any adventure from within our own half. safety first at all times. We have some mdeiocre players at the mo but so do Huddersfield and they managed to look a half decent outfit - the result of good coaching and good team spirit, i.e the coach (notice a general theme?).
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| I blame playing on a friday night hate it ,thought the singer was good.
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| Quote ="jampot"I blame playing on a friday night hate it ,thought the singer was good.'"
Said to my mrs,wish he had stayed on for 80 minutes.
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| Quote ="jampot"I blame playing on a friday night hate it ,thought the singer was good.'"
The singer was like us, very solid but failed to hit the high notes
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| Quote ="Linebreaker"Last night we witnessed a team playing that were devoid of ideas in attack. Plan "A" worked to a degree in the first ten minutes but we failed to put points on the board. Plan "B" consisted of moving the one player that looked like creating open play for our backs into the middle and replacing him with a player that couldnt create an opening on the Apprentice. That's poor coaching on both counts. OK, the players shoulder some of the blame but creating attacking plays and defence strategies are in the hands of the coach.
Last night we reverted to what we normally do when plan "A" fails - 5 drives and a kick. Again, blame the coach. We never see any adventure from within our own half. safety first at all times. We have some mdeiocre players at the mo but so do Huddersfield and they managed to look a half decent outfit - the result of good coaching and good team spirit, i.e the coach (notice a general theme?).'"
They are second you know
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| Quote ="fat ash"
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'"
Or alternatively all of them have been below par coaches and sadly Agar has learned all he knows from them?
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| Quote ="fat ash"in my opinion that it is the players (well certain ones) that are to blame for our poor performances . Last week we showed comitment , and the ability to throw the ball about and showed interest .
tonight we looked awful and any desire to win the game seemed to , at least in the second half to be non existent .
we have shown we can do it , but only in games the playes can lift themselves for , derbys are easy to lift for , but i always said it would be this week that showed if we have turned a corner . we havent cause the same lack of passion showed through tonight .
the Anti Agar crew should take a look at the past 3 years , we blamed kear , we blamed sharpe , now we blame agar , whats the one thing that has remained constant (ish) ? the playing staff'"
The boards ability to employ a successively worse coach every time?
Thats why they have us all living in fear of Jon Sharp.
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| Quote ="FoD FC Army"The boards ability to employ a successively worse coach every time?
Thats why they have us all living in fear of Jon Sharp.'"
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| who said we had a full team playing 5 regulars not playing tonite and arguably our biggest impact player in crabtree also wild,griffin,raleigh and whatauria didnt play, also if the rugby is so boring we play how come 3 of our trys came from passing movements not to mention the numerous breaks and missed chances, compare that to hull whose main form of attack seems to be kick into the in goal area in one form or another, i agree with most of your posters on here agar needs to go and sharp with him you look like a clone of us last season when sharp was in charge of us too predictable.
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