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| I know what you mean and i agree with that (something wrong here agreeing with Kosh )
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| Quote ="hullbg"They do and i see the point you are trying to make
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They do not have what you would call snow ploughs, they use tractors to clear the roads and they get a little extra for helping out.
They have nowhere near the funds that local councils have here.
The way the climate is going we could end up getting snow on a regular basis over the next few years... but thats a different debate
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But on the other hand they dont have many services to pay for like local councils over here.
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| Nor do the locals pay extortionate prices to them
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'm not saying we shouldn't do better, especially when we have advanced warning like we did in the run-up to last week. Gritting procedures in particular are a lottery and generally inadequate. But the constant referral of our struggles compared to countries who have vastly more experience and (in most cases) specialist resources makes me laugh TBH.'"
And of course, if councils were to maintain fleets of under-utilised gritters and snow ploughs there would be equal outcry at the inappropriate prioritisation of public money.
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| Quote ="Action Man"And of course, if councils were to maintain fleets of under-utilised gritters and snow ploughs there would be equal outcry at the inappropriate prioritisation of public money.'"
Exactly.
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| At the end of the day no matter how well they grit or plough it aint gonna get your signal back up
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"My signal went last night. Brushed the accumulated snow off the LNB arm and the dish itself and it restored the picture immediately. Nothing to do with atmospheric conditions'"
Really? Had it stopped snowing?
Snow storms usually knocks out Sky.. simple as that. Did mine last night as well.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Do they by any chance get large amounts of it on a regular basis rather than once every two decades?'"
Its every year now Kosh, we should be prepared.
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"Really? Had it stopped snowing?
Snow storms usually knocks out Sky.. simple as that. Did mine last night as well.'"
Was still snowing when i did ours and worked fine, also out in Bg it was a twice daily routine at times brushing the dish off, tended to have more problems with rain than snow.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Was still snowing when i did ours .'"
Somehow, I thought that might be the case.
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| Don't know why i bothered though cos the wife watched bleedin soaps anyway.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Don't know why i bothered though cos the wife watched bleedin soaps anyway.'" get multiroom
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| Got mutliroom but the card is otherwise engaged
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Its every year now Kosh, we should be prepared.'"
The snow last week was the worst for 18 years. Should we have been 'prepared' for that? If so, how?
The petty disruptions caused by our normal snowfalls should be dealt with better, but once-in-two-decades events are hard to plan for unless you want to spend a lot of taxpayers cash on equipment that will gather dust for most of it's lifetime.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The snow last week was the worst for 18 years. Should we have been 'prepared' for that? If so, how?
The petty disruptions caused by our normal snowfalls should be dealt with better, but once-in-two-decades events are hard to plan for unless you want to spend a lot of taxpayers cash on equipment that will gather dust for most of it's lifetime.'"
Your missing my point mate. We might have had the worst snow in 18 years, im not disagreeing with that. What i am saying is that we dont cope with snow full stop. I drive to York every day for work and on numerous occasions per year we have snow. Each and every time we have snow be it 3 inches or 18 inches etc we struggle as a country to deal with it. We know its going to come dont we. (in some form or other)
Same as the heat as i mentioned earlier leading to hose pipe bans etc. We know we are going to get some heat at some point, we just fail to cope with it then either.
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| try switching off at mains and back on again worked for me just hope the dam thing records the game tonight !
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| Quote ="BalearicHullFan"Really? Had it stopped snowing?
Snow storms usually knocks out Sky.. simple as that. Did mine last night as well.'"
No, it snowed for about another 2 hours. The falling snow didn't affect the signal, it was the snow which had accumulated on the dish which stopped it working.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Your missing my point mate. We might have had the worst snow in 18 years, im not disagreeing with that. What i am saying is that we dont cope with snow full stop. I drive to York every day for work and on numerous occasions per year we have snow. Each and every time we have snow be it 3 inches or 18 inches etc we struggle as a country to deal with it. We know its going to come dont we. (in some form or other)
Same as the heat as i mentioned earlier leading to hose pipe bans etc. We know we are going to get some heat at some point, we just fail to cope with it then either.'"
Our 'inability to cope' is grossly overstated by the media in my opinion. There was a headline grabbing statistic last week which reckoned the UK had ground to a halt and that 1 in 5 people didn't go into work. Without context, that statistic can mean anything. 1 in 5 people may have used their common sense and worked from home instead.
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| Quote ="Action Man"Our 'inability to cope' is grossly overstated by the media in my opinion. There was a headline grabbing statistic last week which reckoned the UK had ground to a halt and that 1 in 5 people didn't go into work. Without context, that statistic can mean anything. 1 in 5 people may have used their common sense and worked from home instead.'"
Im basing it on using trains and driving when the weather hits. Im also basing it on stats that im privvy to seeing about workforce absence acorss the UK when bad weather hits. We dont cope well full stop. (we do cope better than the US when the superbowl hits though in relation to people calling off going to work)
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Im basing it on using trains and driving when the weather hits. Im also basing it on stats that im privvy to seeing about workforce absence acorss the UK when bad weather hits. We dont cope well full stop. (we do cope better than the US when the superbowl hits though in relation to people calling off going to work)'"
I'm not saying that workforce absences don't rise sharply when bad weather hits, course they do. I was merely stating that the stat of 1 in 5 is misleading. In a sample of 20 people, 4 people who didn't make it to work may have been made up of 1 lazy @rse playing the weather card, 1 working from home, 1 genuinely snowed in, 1 looking after kids who's school had closed. 3 of those 4 are genuine reasons for non-attendance at work. That was all I was getting at.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Your missing my point mate. We might have had the worst snow in 18 years, im not disagreeing with that. What i am saying is that we dont cope with snow full stop. I drive to York every day for work and on numerous occasions per year we have snow. Each and every time we have snow be it 3 inches or 18 inches etc we struggle as a country to deal with it. We know its going to come dont we. (in some form or other)
Same as the heat as i mentioned earlier leading to hose pipe bans etc. We know we are going to get some heat at some point, we just fail to cope with it then either.'"
I dealt with the point about normal snowfall in the second part of my reply. I agree that we should cope better, but in fact we are nowhere near as pathetic as the media would like you to believe.
We may have snow every year, but how many days per year does it cause a problem? One or two? How much extra cash is that worth?
The heat is different issue. The problems with water shortages are due to too many people and not enough rain (don't laugh). Compared to our population we have a shortage of rainfall, particularly on the east side of the country. Solutions for that problem are vastly expensive and long term.
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| Quote ="Action Man"I'm not saying that workforce absences don't rise sharply when bad weather hits, course they do. I was merely stating that the stat of 1 in 5 is misleading. In a sample of 20 people, 4 people who didn't make it to work may have been made up of 1 lazy @rse playing the weather card, 1 working from home, 1 genuinely snowed in, 1 looking after kids who's school had closed. 3 of those 4 are genuine reasons for non-attendance at work. That was all I was getting at.'"
Indeed they may.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I dealt with the point about normal snowfall in the second part of my reply. I agree that we should cope better, but in fact we are nowhere near as pathetic as the media would like you to believe.
We may have snow every year, but how many days per year does it cause a problem? One or two? How much extra cash is that worth?
The heat is different issue. The problems with water shortages are due to too many people and not enough rain (don't laugh). Compared to our population we have a shortage of rainfall, particularly on the east side of the country. Solutions for that problem are vastly expensive and long term.'"
Snow or severe ice would be over 2 or 3 weeks worth off the top of my head.
Too many people and not enough rain!
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Snow or severe ice would be over 2 or 3 weeks worth off the top of my head.'"
Really? Not down this way it isn't.
Quote ="Big Dave T"Too many people and not enough rain!
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I kid you not.
You remember the commitment to build thousands of new homes in the South East? There's barely enough water to service the existing homes. They already pull water from the West and there isn't the capacity to supply more. They're talking about putting in a 'national grid' for water to try and cope going forward.
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| Quote ="Kosh"Really? Not down this way it isn't.
I kid you not.
You remember the commitment to build thousands of new homes in the South East? There's barely enough water to service the existing homes. They already pull water from the West and there isn't the capacity to supply more. They're talking about putting in a 'national grid' for water to try and cope going forward.'"
Ah, i keep forgetting we have the north/south divide.
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