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| Quote ="EXPRO"He will learn Paul, the problem is that at the level he is playing at right now any mistakes look huge, made worse by the fact that if you listen to many on here he is the only one who makes mistakes if you see my point .
I keep saying it but he is a confidence player, and is having a bad time at present but so is all the squad apart from one or two ...'"
He is definately not the only one making mistakes and I agree about him being a confidence player. He just needs to stop making the same mistakes, natural ability and talent does not always equal being a top player. Some players never realise their potential, I hope Hall is not one of those.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He is definately not the only one making mistakes and I agree about him being a confidence player. He just needs to stop making the same mistakes, natural ability and talent does not always equal being a top player. Some players never realise their potential, I hope Hall is not one of those.'"
A good coach,would polish the rough edges off.
Defensive technique is coachable, natural attacking flair cant be coached.
Wish we could get Brian Smith.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"He is definately not the only one making mistakes and I agree about him being a confidence player. He just needs to stop making the same mistakes, natural ability and talent does not always equal being a top player. Some players never realise their potential, I hope Hall is not one of those.'"
All players have a special quality about them at something in the game plan, we need to get Craig utilising his special qualities to the full more and cover his flaws a little better till he develops, and anyone can see that the lad has something gifted in his style with ball in hand , however being played out of position due to injuries and defending continously as we have recently does not help that..
Think back to matches when in the correct position and he looked world class, just not enough of them , Yeaman is an international and still makes the same mistakes Hall does week in week out but has a better technique when he connects thats all, hall will never be a smasher in the tackle as he is not built like Keith Tindall but he does have some special qualities we should never forget that !!
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| Quote ="EXPRO"
Think back to matches when in the correct position and he looked world class, '"
Half my morning cuppa just came out of my nose. You are Craig Hall. Give me my fiver.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"All players have a special quality about them at something in the game plan, we need to get Craig utilising his special qualities to the full more and cover his flaws a little better till he develops, and anyone can see that the lad has something gifted in his style with ball in hand , however being played out of position due to injuries and defending continously as we have recently does not help that..
Think back to matches when in the correct position and he looked world class, just not enough of them , Yeaman is an international and still makes the same mistakes Hall does week in week out but has a better technique when he connects thats all, hall will never be a smasher in the tackle as he is not built like Keith Tindall but he does have some special qualities we should never forget that !!'"
How long did we keep covering for his flaws though? He has not developed at all in the last year or two. He still misses tackles and still loses concentration both when reading plays in defence and also when we are attacking. He also makes poor decisions with ball in hand. I agree he has huge potential but he needs to start stepping up to the plate, he is a confidence player but that he needs to be able to make his own confidence, he can't just keep putting his head down everytime he makes an error.
He is up there with a few other players as good young centres, the question is can he go on and become a top player, personally I am not sure he is strong enough mentally although he does need an extended run at centre to help him.
I can't agree on the world class part though, he has looked a classy player with ball in hand at times but never world class.
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| Shame Reece Lyne isnt fit I would have played him this week on the wing and put Whiting at centre.
Would be tempted to give Tuffour a game next game, might as well see what he can do at SL level.
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| Agar can't have any confidence in tuffours ability, doubt he'll get another deal.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"
I can't agree on the world class part though, he has looked a classy player with ball in hand at times but never world class.'"
agreed , miss use of a statement on my part, I should have said classy! not world class, was tired and it was late sorry.
But he does have something special when he gets a head of steam up doesnt he?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Agar can't have any confidence in tuffours ability, doubt he'll get another deal.'"
What makes you say that ?
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| Bacause we have no wingers and he still cant get a game.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"agreed , miss use of a statement on my part, I should have said classy! not world class, was tired and it was late sorry.
But he does have something special when he gets a head of steam up doesnt he?'"
He does but we just need to see it more often. Agar has to back him more but Craig has to take the opportunities when they come his way.
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| Quote ="Dave K."Bacause we have no wingers and he still cant get a game.'"
Maybe he felt a bit burned after the playing Reece against Salford and that backfiring. If Agar feels Reece is more ready than Dennis and Reece's debut showed up some frailties then maybe that is making less likely to try Dennis?
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| Quote ="EXPRO"What makes you say that ?'"
he hasn't had a first team call up when the3/4's is a problem position.
He even missed u20's due to age restrictions and didn't have a game for a month.
If he was rated agar would have made sure he was playing to be ready for first team.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"he hasn't had a first team call up when the3/4's is a problem position.
He even missed u20's due to age restrictions and didn't have a game for a month.
If he was rated agar would have made sure he was playing to be ready for first team.'"
or could it be that the coaching team are clever enough not to offer another lamb to the slaughter when things are against us both on and off the pitch..
Do we need another scapegoat where every move will be scruitinised worse than the shooting of JFK??
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| Hall was complete gash in every department in that game - out of position or no would have made no difference. I can't see a way back into the team for him.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"or could it be that the coaching team are clever enough not to offer another lamb to the slaughter when things are against us both on and off the pitch..
Do we need another scapegoat where every move will be scruitinised worse than the shooting of JFK??'"
he's not 17.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"he's not 17.'"
you are correct but totally inexperienced
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| Quote ="EXPRO"you are correct but totally inexperienced'"
How will he get Sl experience with playing SL.
The club are playign s*ite at the momwnt, have no wingers will might as well give him a game and see what he can do, he might turn out alright he might be awful, but we wont know until he is given the chance.
Would like to see him having go, although he reminds me of the Richie Barnett type winger (not the NZ one).
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| Quote ="EXPRO"you are correct but totally inexperienced'"
And how do you get experienced?
Briscoe, hall, tansey, lyne, yeaman, Horne, calderwood all made their debuts considerbly younger than tuffour.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"And how do you get experienced?
Briscoe, hall, tansey, lyne, yeaman, Horne, calderwood all made their debuts considerbly younger than tuffour.'"
The way the season is going it is not going to harm us to bring is some of the younger lads. We are gash with the "experienced" players i doubt the youngsters would make us any worse. The fact Agar has his favourites means yet again even with a fully fit squad there is very little competition for places.
For those saying he does not have favourites just remember back to Whiting having a MOM performance against Cas at full back but then being dropped to the bench the following game to bring Tansey back. Moa putting in one of the top 3 performances on the pitch against Leeds only to be dropped the following week to accomodate Dowes/Cusack/Radford.
The players on the fringe know no matter how well they play they are going to be dropped when the "Big name / favourite" is back from injury.
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| Imagine if we let Craig Hall leave and he came up against us next year, his defence hasn't improved one bit at this new club. But I have no doubt that we'd make him look a world class defender.
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| Quote ="A unknown superstar"Imagine if we let Craig Hall leave and he came up against us next year, his defence hasn't improved one bit at this new club. =#FF0000But I have no doubt that we'd make him look a world class defender.
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I doubt he would have to do any defending out wide against your lot lol
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| Quote ="Rupert Pupkin"I doubt he would have to do any defending out wide against your lot
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Its safe to say i'd look like a world class defender the amount of tackling our opposition backs need to do this season.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Its safe to say i'd look like a world class defender the amount of tackling our opposition backs need to do this season.
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Our three top try scorers are Briscoe, Hall, and Yeaman. Next are Horne, Long, and Tansey. Not bad for a 5-drives-and-kick side who never get the ball to their backs, eh?
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| Quote ="Kosh"Our three top try scorers are Briscoe, Hall, and Yeaman. Next are Horne, Long, and Tansey. Not bad for a 5-drives-and-kick side who never get the ball to their backs, eh?'"
Imagine how many we'd score if they got good ball!
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