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I've posted my view on diving.
The bigger moral picture does bother me. It's of no surprise that it bothers no one else. This is born out throughout history. People ignoring bigger moral issues .it leads to the shovelling of Jewish people into gas ovens and ethnic cleansing of Palestinians and others.
I'm sorry it bores you.
Boudebza embarrasses no one. His bravery in going on the pitch given his stature says enough for me.


Message to the moderator. The title of the thread needs changing. It's of a similar nature to the original post. C#nt fine, reference to an individual. French....maybe not.

Good post and a reminder/education to others what our city endured during the war.

Once in Chants Ave cemetery my Grandma showed me the mass grave of all the people they couldn't identify from the raids.

That generation and their children lived through hell for six years and no comment on here relating to rugby league/(or stupid injury posts), are worthy of comparison.

There's a programme on Channel 5 called World War 2 in colour on Saturday evenings. Might have finished now, but probably available on catch up. You ought to watch it. Certainly puts your 'Occasional bombing' theory to the test.
I'm not saying the French didn't fight, far from it, but it may also educate you on who fought the wars in France, and the scale of non-French casualties.
It is certainly worth watching.

Don't patronise me I'm well aware of the history of the WW2. In fact I've I have been to Lenningrad not St Petersburg as you incorrectly called it and was moved to tears when I learned about the siege and how they suffered during " The Great Patriotic War" The Soviets in particular suffered appallingly and that should not be forgotten. Nobody is denying that the French and other Countries suffered terrible casualties but to call us "lucky" is crass and insulting. You have made an ass of yourself and I suggest you stop posting before you embarrass yourself further.

The World at War is better. First hand interviews with all the major protagonists left alive from all sides.
Literature is better I find though.

Why shouldn't I criticise an offensive post?

You don't like most of what I put on here but that's because the truth often hurts. You should get down off your high horse given your propensity for abusive posts.

Anyway, despite the diversionary tactics by BF, he dived in a cowardly fashion and then skulked off.
The RFL should ban him .

Embarrass. How?
You've been to St Petersburg.....then Leningrad. Well done. You'll appreciate then that in comparison to the damage and death in Hull though appalling ( my point about all war which appears to have gone over your head) was occasional in comparison to this and hundreds of other cities through out the world during the second world war.....Dresden, Toyko, London, Gdansk, etc etc etc.
Don't allow posts be belittling the suffering of the French go by then get all outraged about comparisons to Hull´s suffering.
This de humanizing of others leads to the appalling wars that we humans so seem to enjoy.
The current horrific treatment of the Syrians fleeing there current tragedy is down to this psychology. We sit by watching them and their children drown yet get outraged at the word occasional.
I suggest you read my posts twice or more then have a little think before replying in future.

I take it your trying to be funny?

No and he's not the only one

Shaun Briscoe @sbrisk1
Boudebza should get a ban for that acting. No place in the game for it.

Alan Hunte ‏@alanhunte
Seriously Boudebza DO NOT BRING DIVING in to rugby league!!! #NoFootballFairies

It's rugby league forum, get a grip. Lets not start on the war on terror

How embarrassing is this thread?

How can a cowardly act by a French Rovers player become a ing contest about the atrocities suffered in WW2 and the relative levels of knowledge of history of those entering that doomed debate?

The pathetic person who came on here and steered the conversation in that direction is to be pitied, can only assume it's his acute misery from yesterday's 20 minute wipe-out that prompted this unwise deflection. Desperation. Just ignore it.

John Boudebza .......the French Tom Daley ( cue BF accusing me of being a racist homophobic!).

Based on what, exactly?


You may do. I never have.

And diving draws 'moral outrage' in RL because it's cowardly and dishonest in a sport that prizes courage and honesty (although it often falls short). Similar outrage is expressed for cheap shots and deliberate attempts to injure.


The two are not mutually exclusive.

You've been to St Petersburg.....then Leningrad. Well done.

Thank you. I would suggest you go to St Petersburg not only because it's a beautiful city but you get more of an education of what went on rather than watching the history channel.

No doubt as a student of history you will know that it was St Petersburg - Petrograd - Lenningrad. I sometimes find that the history channel isn't as informative as it could be.

You are trying to impress me with your deep knowledge of history and the current atrocities that go on in the world. Well done. I do know and am appalled by it just like you.. It also seems that you are trying to deflect the insult you made to this Country in your earlier post.

Back to my point. You used the word "Luckily" whether in context or not it was a poor choice of word which if you had anything about you should retract and apologise.

Now back to Rugby.

Personally I would throw rovers out of superleague.

Don't mention the war .You started it .No I did'nt

You have? Where?

This is all I found in your opening post to do with the subject before going on a little rant about racism and the war:
[i"A guy that size playing this game and someone calls him a coward. He looked real cowardly tackling Pritchard and dropping him 1-1."[/i

I don't care how big or small someone is. Diving is cowardly. If your view is that it's OK because he's small, then I'm glad you're not in charge.


When did I say it bores me? When did I say it doesn't bother me? I didn't. No one else has. Get off your high horse.
People aren't ignoring it because they don't care. They're ignoring it because they've come on a rugby forum to talk about the rugby, not the World War! Seriously, get over yourself.

If you don't want to talk about the rugby, go on a different forum.


He's embarrassed a lot of people. Ex-pros (including ex-Rovers players at that) are embarrassed. But you're not. Because it's OK to cheat because he's small and that's brave enough, bless him. How patronising are you?
Your whole point seems to be "he's already really brave because he's a small man playing a big man's game, so he can do what he likes that others would consider cowardly."

Have I got that right?

I'm not interested in discussing the War. Talk about the rugby. Was the diving and the ball throwing cowardly? Yes or no?

Can you imagine Rob Burrow for example doing anything like this? Certain he and any other smaller player would be fuming at the thought anyone could justify size being an issue here.

Boudebza embarrassed KR. So did we in the last 20.

"I mentioned it once but I think I got away with it"

Yes you did , You invaded Poland ha ha

By god never read so much tripe from one person as burtons foreskin

Ok I'd use xenophobia to distract from a rugby defeat ffs.....that's far worse is it than ignoring it and then turning on someone who doesn't because they happen to be a Rovers fan.
My misery comes from the repeated ignorance of people.
One of us pathetic.
I've congratulated you on your win plenty of times throughout this.
Two issues with this in what possible definition of 'diving' is it cowardly and what's his nationality got to do with it?
Look at the title of the thread.....read my posts........ take your fc glasses off and have a little think.
Because you don't understand there's no need to be rude.

No because it isn't.
It's not funny either so bad on both counts.