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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"And of course there's nothing to celebrate or enjoy about reaching a major final, you can only do that if you win it.'"
Sorry but don't see what this quote has to do with the discussion. No one has said there's nothing to celebrate or enjoy about reaching a major final.
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| Quote ="spegs"So why do they need a break? Please justify your observation without sporting cliches and the usual bullsh@t rhetoric.'"
Well someone's still upset from last night.
Pryce and Mini just made it last night and looking back on both performances they both shouldn't have played, both wasn't 100%. Ellis looked shot last night again 50 mins in, he's had a few knocks over the last couple of weeks, it's the perfect game to give him a week off.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"Well someone's still upset from last night.
Pryce and Mini just made it last night and looking back on both performances they both shouldn't have played, both wasn't 100%. Ellis looked shot last night again 50 mins in, he's had a few knocks over the last couple of weeks, it's the perfect game to give him a week off.'"
You think it will be quite an easy game then? Let's hope the players feel the same.
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| The past month or so has seen Shaul play one and miss the next, thats how you dent a players confidence,
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| Quote ="Keiththered"You think it will be quite an easy game then? Let's hope the players feel the same.'"
Wouldn't say easy but we should win even without those 3.
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| For me, the problem is (and always was going to be from the moment he was appointed) Radford has no idea how to manage his men.
They have the skill and the know-how. We know that because they have demonstrated that at times this season. We are falling down because of attitude, disgruntlement and personal dissatisfaction, imo. That is purely down to Radford's handling of them on a personal level.
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| Why would rotating with Rankin dent Shaul's confidence? Didn't seem to bother Kevin Harkin and Tony Dean.
He's a grown man, I'm sure he's happy to do what's best for the team. We are lucky to have two very good fullbacks.
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| Quote ="Superbowl Scott"The lineup for Wakefield will be interesting. Pryce, Ellis and Mini need a break. Westermans handling was awful but he was the only player to run a line and looked like breaking the Leeds defence which he deserves credit for.'"
hes not made 1 clean break all season
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"And of course there's nothing to celebrate or enjoy about reaching a major final, you can only do that if you win it.'"
Still digging up that little gem, still taken out of context, after all these years.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"And of course there's nothing to celebrate or enjoy about reaching a major final, you can only do that if you win it.'"
You seemed highly delighted about reaching wembley until wigan nilled you.
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| Quote ="deslawson"You seemed highly delighted about reaching wembley until wigan nilled you.'"
That's my point. A final is a great occasion for any club regardless of result because of the build-up if nothing else. But Bobbin' Along has a different view of reaching a final and not winning it:
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I certainly don't look back fondly on those two games. So please all the "We had a jolly day out" brigade. Tell it to someone else.
As I've said already, Rovers IMO have their name on the trophy this year. But you do lose in the final we know from this where you stand.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"For me, the problem is (and always was going to be from the moment he was appointed) Radford has no idea how to manage his men.
They have the skill and the know-how. We know that because they have demonstrated that at times this season. We are falling down because of attitude, disgruntlement and personal dissatisfaction, imo. That is purely down to Radford's handling of them on a personal level.'"
Stop talking sense, it just won't work on here.
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| Quote ="beetwaste"
Nice sunset. Picture of it is now my desktop background
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I'd forgotten about that, the only spectacular moment of the entire evening.
Highlight of the night for me, which sort of says everything.
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| The biggest worry for me was that leeds had they 2 most dangerous players out, (McGuire and cuthbertson) and still didn't need to get out of 3rd gear
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| Mrs Barrista, Jake the Peg and Frepenyboy your boys took one hell of a beating last night.
Just as well we had our second string half backs playing and our best forward out injured otherwise it could have been much worse for your boys.
Seriously I thought had Westerman and Pryce been playing for Leeds last night you would have won the game.
Fortunately Westerman was poor and as usual Pryce goes missing in a big game.
Child made a few errors that favoured us but also got a couple wrong that would have helped us too.
The ten was not policed well for both sides.
Thought we played the conditions better than you.
I am still impressed with Watts and I wish Ellis would come to us.
Abdull looks good and maybe we missed out on him when he was a youngster.
If you play like you did before coming up against Leeds you should make the 8 especially if HKR get to the CCF.
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| Quote ="chapylad"Mrs Barrista, Jake the Peg and Frepenyboy your boys took one hell of a beating last night.
Just as well we had our second string half backs playing and our best forward out injured otherwise it could have been much worse for your boys.
Seriously I thought had Westerman and Pryce been playing for Leeds last night you would have won the game.
Fortunately Westerman was poor and as usual Pryce goes missing in a big game.
Child made a few errors that favoured us but also got a couple wrong that would have helped us too.
The ten was not policed well for both sides.
Thought we played the conditions better than you.
I am still impressed with Watts and I wish Ellis would come to us.
Abdull looks good and maybe we missed out on him when he was a youngster.
If you play like you did before coming up against Leeds you should make the 8 especially if HKR get to the CCF.'"
Pretty much my take on it, son
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"That's my point. A final is a great occasion for any club regardless of result because of the build-up if nothing else. But Bobbin' Along has a different view of reaching a final and not winning it:
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I certainly don't look back fondly on those two games. So please all the "We had a jolly day out" brigade. Tell it to someone else.
As I've said already, Rovers IMO have their name on the trophy this year. But you do lose in the final we know from this where you stand.'"
Runners up are losers like the rest.
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| Quote ="deslawson"Runners up are losers like the rest.'"
That's true in one sense, but I'd rather be in a final than not. They always say the most gut-wrenching and damaging round to lose is the semi final because you have the dream of the final but end up with nothing and often it compromises your performance in the league.
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| Quote ="chapylad"The ten was not policed well for both sides.'"
That's what crucified us last night.
Our pack needed to dominate, something we've done well in a few games recently.
But the ref chose to allow Leeds (and probably us) to get away with murder at the play the ball, particularly in the first half.
The packs effectively cancelled each other out.
There was plenty of effort, but our backs don't perform if the pack isn't on top, which is not unusual for teams, to be fair.
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| Quote ="WormInHand"For me, the problem is (and always was going to be from the moment he was appointed) Radford has no idea how to manage his men.
They have the skill and the know-how. We know that because they have demonstrated that at times this season. We are falling down because of attitude, disgruntlement and personal dissatisfaction, imo. That is purely down to Radford's handling of them on a personal level.'"
Nonsense
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"That's true in one sense, but I'd rather be in a final than not. They always say the most gut-wrenching and damaging round to lose is the semi final because you have the dream of the final but end up with nothing and often it compromises your performance in the league.'"
Would agree with you on that.
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| Quote ="ccs"That's what crucified us last night.
Our pack needed to dominate, something we've done well in a few games recently.
But the ref chose to allow Leeds (and probably us) to get away with murder at the play the ball, particularly in the first half.
The packs effectively cancelled each other out.
There was plenty of effort, but our backs don't perform if the pack isn't on top, which is not unusual for teams, to be fair.'"
I disagree..
Leeds's defensive line speed was outstanding,and our play the ball was slower than their line speed, therefore this negated our attack.
Until, we learn to play the ball & pass faster, we wont trouble any opposition with a quick line speed.
From the start, we lacked enthusiasm & aggression, it was only until after 20 minutes,we played with more intensity.
For mine, our pack was dominated..
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| .... you always disagree.
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| Pack matched there's, we had plenty of territory. Main difference was ball handling and there extra class in the outside backs.
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| Quote ="ccs".... you always disagree.'"
Thats my opinion... you are entitled to yours.
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