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| Quote ="Sheldon"Wouldn't be surprised if we did at one stage, wasn't we trying to release Seymour to Hudds?
But then we missed out on Chase, kept Seymour and signed Galea be cause we didn't expect Chase to become available again.'"
Pearson actually said he wanted 2 new halfbacks to make a total of four. Holdsworth was nothing like an alternative to Chase, because the fact of the matter is there isn't another like him available to SL.
IIRC, the Prince/Miller saga was also after Holdsworth signed, so if anything that's where we switched our attempts to (and we eventually got one).
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| Holdsworth has been a massive success hasnt he.Mind you,best watch what i put or else will get 2 mods acting the big men.
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| Quote ="Kosh"For the umpteenth time, the visa rules changed between when we tried for chase and when Salford did. Think his personal circumstances changed as well. Sure, we could have played the last 2 seasons with no halfback and waited to see if we could eventually get Chase but that would have been a huge gamble.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.'"
we've always had a half back, in Richard Whiting, but he's never been played there. He was a stand off when we got him from Featherstone then very rarely played him in the position we got him as. Now we play him in the second row, he's not, he's a loose forward/standoff, always has been , always will be. I would say his ball handling skills and football brain are the best at the club.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Holdsworth has been a massive success hasnt he.Mind you,best watch what i put or else will get 2 mods acting the big men.'"
Where?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Where?'"
Stupid and Alzehimers
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Holdsworth has been a massive success hasnt he.Mind you,best watch what i put or else will get 2 mods acting the big men.'"
Holdsworth has been massively disappointing IMO. That still doesn't make him a poor Chase substitute or the reason we didn't get Chase, it was never one or the other.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Stupid and Alzehimers'"
I can't be d to go through it again.
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| Quote ="World of Redboy"we've always had a half back, in Richard Whiting, but he's never been played there. He was a stand off when we got him from Featherstone then very rarely played him in the position we got him as. Now we play him in the second row, he's not, he's a loose forward/standoff, always has been , always will be. I would say his ball handling skills and football brain are the best at the club.'"
Well I don't know why you missed them, but I've seen Whiting play for us at stand-off (albeit a while back), and I'd actually say they were the least impressive performances I've seen him give for us. His decision-making wasn't quick/good enough and he dwelt in possession. Whiting is many things, a great player being chief among those accolades/attributes, but he's not the halfback answer for us.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Well I don't know why you missed them, but I've seen Whiting play for us at stand-off (albeit a while back), and I'd actually say they were the least impressive performances I've seen him give for us. His decision-making wasn't quick/good enough and he dwelt in possession. Whiting is many things, a great player being chief among those accolades/attributes, but he's not the halfback answer for us.'"
The home derby this year put that myth to bed.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Pearson actually said he wanted 2 new halfbacks to make a total of four. Holdsworth was nothing like an alternative to Chase, because the fact of the matter is there isn't another like him available to SL.
IIRC, the Prince/Miller saga was also after Holdsworth signed, so if anything that's where we switched our attempts to (and we eventually got one).'"
You could well be right. We could have also had the deal with Miller agreed when we went for Chase, missed out on Chase so went for Holdsworth, miller pulled out so we went for Prince.
All pointless now.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"The home derby this year put that myth to bed.'"
In fairness, if he had a few games to bed in and was playing alongside a decent scrum half, things might be different. He has had some good games at 6 (was it Leeds last year when he got MOM at stand off?), and given a run there could do quite well. He's definitely better as a loose forward though.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"The home derby this year put that myth to bed.'"
I would have hoped so, but even if you accept the point that he wasn't used to playing there, as I've just pointed out he did once have a few games there (think it was around 2006/07). Then there's the fact that when Gentle asked all the players where they saw as their best position, Whiting apparently said back row.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"In fairness, if he had a few games to bed in and was playing alongside a decent scrum half, things might be different. He has had some good games at 6 (was it Leeds last year when he got MOM at stand off?), and given a run there could do quite well. He's definitely better as a loose forward though.'"
He was named at 6, but he played as a back row. Seymour played as the sole halfback that game and was outstanding.
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| Quote ="fc baldy"Stupid and Alzehimers'"
I agree all have opinions and whether we agree or disagree,there is a right way and a wrong way to reply !
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"He was named at 6, but he played as a back row. Seymour played as the sole halfback that game and was outstanding.'"
I know that's what was said, but he wasn't playing as a typical back-rower. Had his hands on the ball a lot in central positions. Perhaps more like the old ball handling 13, which is where he could be best utilised if we could come up with a game plan to accommodate it.
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| Quote ="Rock God X"I know that's what was said, but he wasn't playing as a typical back-rower. Had his hands on the ball a lot in central positions. Perhaps more like the old ball handling 13, which is where he could be best utilised if we could come up with a game plan to accommodate it.'"
Don't entirely agree with you, TBH. He was predominantly on our left edge to overload Leeds' right, and didn't really play that much of a ball-handling role. Did a bit more than your typical back rower, but no more than he often does and didn't dictate any play. Seymour took charge of all of that in far and away his best 80 minutes for us.
Either way, he wasn't and isn't a stand-off.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Don't entirely agree with you, TBH. He was predominantly on our left edge to overload Leeds' right, and didn't really play that much of a ball-handling role. Did a bit more than your typical back rower, but no more than he often does and didn't dictate any play. '"
I saw it differently, but don't care enough to argue about it.
Quote Seymour took charge of all of that in far and away his best 80 minutes for us.'"
Even Thorman had the odd good game.
Quote Either way, he wasn't and isn't a stand-off.'"
I think he could do a more than passable job there, but 13 is definitely his best position.
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| Why didn't FC go for Sammut. Pulling up trees at Bradford.
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| Quote ="stonesy"Why didn't FC go for Sammut. Pulling up trees at Bradford.'"
Dont start that one!
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| Quote ="stonesy"Why didn't FC go for Sammut. Pulling up trees at Bradford.'"
There's a reason he's at Bradford.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"There's a reason he's at Bradford.'"
There's a reason Holdsworth was at Salford!!
He's a bottom 4 halfback and should be at a bottom 4 club
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"There's a reason Holdsworth was at Salford!!
He's a bottom 4 halfback and should be at a bottom 4 club'"
No he's not and no he shouldn't.
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| Quote ="FC Wembley 08"There's a reason Holdsworth was at Salford!!
He's a bottom 4 halfback and should be at a bottom 4 club'"
Ah like Matty Smith?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"There's a reason he's at Bradford.'"
Eye the club that filled Langleys medal cabinet with more than Ellis Yemo and Westy
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| Quote ="frepneyboy"Eye the club that filled Langleys medal cabinet with more than Ellis Yemo and Westy'"
which was years ago, when they had a decent team
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