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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For 2012, for SO, SH and 9 we have the following
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Would Ellis have moved to Hull had he known there were to be so many senior players vying for the No. 7 shirt?
Will Horne be used more sparingly?
Good to have competition for places, but where we have not recruited well in the halves in the past, have the club gone over board this time?'"
We've possibly gone overboard at hooker, but Ellis is still 1 of only 2 scrum halves really.
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| Quote ="Mild mannered Janitor"For 2012, for SO, SH and 9 we have the following
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Nicklas
Would Ellis have moved to Hull had he known there were to be so many senior players vying for the No. 7 shirt?
Will Horne be used more sparingly?
Good to have competition for places, but where we have not recruited well in the halves in the past, have the club gone over board this time?'"
Ellis will know his role, it will give the club a chance to see him in FT training.
The club could be thinking on the lines
2012 3rd choice half back on dual reg.
2013/14 2nd choice half back
2015 1st choice
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"We've possibly gone overboard at hooker, but Ellis is still 1 of only 2 scrum halves really.'"
BIG things expected of Ellis, quality young fella and a big unit too, he wont get pushed around dobsonesque ...
Seymore will be a great life coach for him and thats not to say we wont still have SL next year!!
tons of kicking ability, organisation and thought all across next years team sheet which is superb...
and two more English to come hopefully
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"BIG things expected of Ellis, quality young fella and a big unit too, he wont get pushed around dobsonesque ...
Seymore will be a great life coach for him [uand thats not to say we wont still have SL next year!![/utons of kicking ability, organisation and thought all across next years team sheet which is superb...
and two more English to come hopefully'"
you are kidding, right?
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"d040.gif you are kidding, right?'"
no i am not kidding and not crazy either....
the club want him to stay, the coach wants him to stay , the player wants to stay its now all about fitness...
understand that now
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"icon_thumb.gif as good as it gets when it comes to kicking !!!
with all the other halves and thought process we now have for next year FC have a full compliment of pivots and playmakers all over the squad for the first time in years!!!'"
So what do we do if it all goes tits up again?
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| Anything confirmed by the club yet?
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| Quote ="Chris28"Anything confirmed by the club yet?'"
Get it in the rumours thread!
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"icon_lol.gif
Get it in the rumours thread!'"
Well quite!
I've signed on a 2 year deal too
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Ellis will know his role'" Did he shut his mouth too ?
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| Quote ="The Hollywood Frasier"Did he shut his mouth too ?'"
I don't know what you mean mate.
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| Quote ="Chris28"So what do we do if it all goes tits up again?'"
If?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I don't know what you mean mate.'"
It's a wrestling thing... the rock
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"icon_rolleyes.gif no i am not kidding and not crazy either....
the club want him to stay, the coach wants him to stay , the player wants to stay its now all about fitness...
understand that now
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So we'd have:
6: Horne, Nicklas
7: Seymour, Long, Obst, Ellis, Williams
9: Houghton, Heremaia and Obst (sp)
Talk about going from one extreme to another. It'd be an absolutely clueless decision to resign Long as a player.
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| I agree, keeping Longy would be a daft idea. It's like us signing Heremaia, unless something is going on with Obst.
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| Quote ="Chris28"So what do we do if it all goes tits up again?'"
thats where the term "strength in depth " comes into play and thats what we got for next year
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"BIG things expected of Ellis, quality young fella and a big unit too, he wont get pushed around dobsonesque ...
Seymore will be a great life coach for him and thats [unot to say we wont still have SL next year!![/utons of kicking ability, organisation and thought all across next years team sheet which is superb...
and two more English to come hopefully'"
What exactly do you mean by this ??
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| Quote ="jacko1"What exactly do you mean by this ??'"
flick back through the thread, and recent press releases etc... SL wants to stay, the club want him to stay he just has to prove his fitness
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"thats where the term "strength in depth " comes into play and thats what we got for next year'"
yeah i can see what you mean. won't it be great to have Horne, Long, Ellis, Seymour, Obst, Nicklas and Williams and a really thin forward pack
Long and Obsts wages will be money well spent with us probably losing Fitzgibbon and Lauaki
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| Quote ="ICECREAMMAN"flick back through the thread, and recent press releases etc... SL wants to stay, the club want him to stay [uhe just has to prove his fitness[/u'"
more chance of me winning the lottery and i don't even buy a ticket
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| I read somewhere,that Long was willing to accept a pay-as-you-play deal,but also joining the coaching staff,plus all these choices in the pivots.....have we not complained about a lack of quality cover in these positions?? Hudds and Saints have shown this year that plenty of choice is essential.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"I read somewhere,that Long was willing to accept a pay-as-you-play deal,but also joining the coaching staff,plus all these choices in the pivots.....have we not complained about a lack of quality cover in these positions?? Hudds and Saints have shown this year that plenty of choice is essential.'"
yes but in our case the amount cover in the halves would be at the expense of cover in the forwards. remember we have been VERY lucky this year in terms of injuries (bar Sean Long)
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"yeah i can see what you mean. won't it be great to have Horne, Long, Ellis, Seymour, Obst, Nicklas and Williams and a really thin forward pack
Long and Obsts wages will be money well spent with us probably losing Fitzgibbon and Lauaki
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for years FC fans have bittched about no real covr now they have plenty, they bittch again
yes we will possibly loose one or two forwards, but who will replace them ???? someone will or are we now saying that the point of the new system is not to give youth the chance to come through the ranks ??
why would we loose Obst ?? its down to him our season turned around in part?/
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| Quote ="monkeyshoes"yes but in our case the amount cover in the halves would be at the expense of cover in the forwards. remember we have been VERY lucky this year in terms of injuries (bar Sean Long)'"
but the squad is far from finalised for nest year mate!!! much to happen yet
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