Agree.

Kite


Lauaki
Dowes
Thackray
Maloney

Radders as cover for both prop and 2nd row. Radders will be better if he's spelled more and has a point to prove, which will be the case if he's competing with Manu/Fitz/Burnett in the 2nd row and those mentioned above at prop.

Lee - no real progress
Thorman -


Moa - poor project
Cusack - age
King - best is behind him
Dowes - maybe


G. Horne - contract extension


Motu - maybe


Radders maybe


Agar

Get rid of:
Radders
Cusack
King
Thorman
Tickle
Yeaman

I was going to mention Yeaman but feared a backlash

I think these two need to be given more game time and used in a proper rotation before they can be classed as deadwood. IMO they should both be given another year.

How about moving Yeaman to 2nd row? Didn't he say, once, that he prefered playing there?

Only one I would disagree with is King, maybe Thacks should go instead but I am not sure.

You are talking out of your backsides regarding Yeaman, if you watch the game properly when was the last time he got a decent ball to run on too, he is one of the best three english centres in Super League with Shenton and Atkins, people really do amaze me. It was Raynor last week and Yeaman this week next week it will be Horney. pffffffff.

The only one of those I wiould keep is Tickle, who I think wouold be one of the biggest off loaders of the ball in the league IF Hul had any support players.

Also, Yeaman! He has been living on the memory of the first half of 2006 for far too long. As someone else identified, he is a second rowers for us at the moment. He doesn't really offer anything in attact other than head down and run as hard has you can at the opposition, indictating his inability to learn and develop this overall game. Its only a couple of weeks ago that Keith Senior gave a master class in centre play by should how to make space for yourself with a change of direction when he received the ball, or the way Senior consistantly puts his winger in teh clear.

Yeamans biggest attribute is his defence, which usually cannot be faulted, but more and more he is now charging out of the line, missing his man and we are 4 more points down.

Others on this thread have dissed G Horne. Although not the greatest of players, when was the last time he let the side down?

Yeaman couldn't lace Senior and Gleesons boots.

Tony Clubb already looks a better player and Paul Sykes would get infront of Yeaman, for international call ups (along with Atkins and Shenton).

It really amazes me that just because a particular player come from Hull they are, in the eyes of some, imune from criticism. Take you B&W glasses off. It was the same with King, who, in the last 3 years, has only produced half decent performances when his next contract has depended on it.

Senior and Gleeson are better, and that's without thinking hard.

I agree that Yeaman has been starved of decent service, but even so his form has been patchy for the last few seasons.

He's the only guy who in the team who actually runs angles and takes the ball in hard everytime. Yes I admit his defence has been lacking in some games but most probably due to fatique with our great use of the interchanges.
Yeaman to be fair has struggled over the last few years (but which player hasn't?) due in part to the injury he suffered a couple of seasons ago and the fact we haven't played an expansive game of rugby for the far too long and we rarely get the ball to either of our centres or wingers.
Even if we had Folau & Hodges out there it would make little difference at present. I think we need to give our centres & wingers decent service before we start off loading them.

Yet he still seems to top our try scoring chart almost every season (currently top at the moment). We are one of the least potent attacking teams in the league and people want to get rid of our main strike weapon!!!

Getting rid of Yeaman would be absolute madness. Granted he is not playing aswell as he did 2/3 years ago but that is mainly down to getting zero service. He is actually doing quite well this season and I am not sure why so many Hull fans want to slag him off so often.

I didn't say I wanted rid of him. Used correctly he can still be a potent weapon, but as an all-round centre he's not in the top 3 English players IMO.

Correct. Yeaman still scores trys for himself because he doesn't get alot of ball, I agree with you about Kingy and I don't where B&W glasses, he should have some criticism but say get rid of him is just laughable.

That for me sums up why G Horne should be let go (along with others) if we are ever going to challenge the top teams in SL.

Definately, the only player who has the gumption to take it in against the grain.

Very apparant in the Saints game, they had runners hitting all sorts of angles, we just shipped the ball along the line (slowly at that) with no-one coming from deep or at an angle. As bad as Thorman is he isn't helped by the total lack of options around him, Sean Long must of thought 'Jeez, what have I let myself in for'.

He could well be the answer to the wide running second row option with Tom Briscoe playing left centre and Raynor on the wing, with the right service thats a fairly devastating line up.

Its comments like "he's one of the best three English Centres in SL" that annoy me. Its a very blinkered attitude. For me Yeaman isn't in the top 5 English Centres.

Yeaman is not a bad player, but he simply hasn't developed at all. Its evident that he relied heavily on Cooke (but then again, the team did also).

His inability to create an opening for himself or relase his winger on a consistant basis to simply try to plough through the opposition shows he has major weaknesses to his game.

If he were to play 2nd row, he would be a useful player, but I personally think he adds to Hulls problem of our style of play. Head down and don't pass.

Now, if a decent coach got hold of him, it might be a different story.

Gidley would be rubbish without a pass of the ball. Says it all for me.

I think this is a major problem with the club, too mant utility players and not enough specialists

Lets face it Andy after Senior and possibly Gleeson (although overrated for me) there are no outstanding canidates for the centre position. Yeaman, Atkins, Shenton and the other nominess are all fairly similar and none of them have reall staked a claim to be the next big thing.

The fact is Gidley gets early ball in space and is bale to then create or score tries. Yes he is a superb passer of the ball and in particular the Gidley flick but Yeaman gets little chance to shine. He very rarely gets quality ball like Senior does at Leeds and if you out any of those two centres in Hull's side they would not do much better imo.

We need to keep Yeaman and work the ball so he gets in earlier which would then give him options. The best we have looked in attack in recent season is when Manu and Yeaman link up together.

Okay I admit I was wrong about Tickle however I'll stick to my guns regarding Yeaman. Frankly I'd rather have Shenton than him. Even the not always accurate facts outweigh it for Shenton www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 He wont improve as an attacking centre & his defense has become a bit iffy at times, sell him off while we can get some decent money for him. People on here have consistantly talked about getting a top quality centre, someone the younger lads can learn off as well as adding some zing t our attack, well that isn't Yeaman. Wont pass to his wingman, cant pass for toffee anyway & has been said is a heads down type of runner & creates very little. In the main he's been great in defence & that for me has been his saving grace but though he might score a few tries how many more might we have scored if he'd passed the blasted egg. Sorry but for a supposed GB centre now in his prime he is a let down.

Okay I admit I was wrong about Tickle however I'll stick to my guns regarding Yeaman. Frankly I'd rather have Shenton than him. Even the not always accurate facts outweigh it for Shenton www.superleague.co.uk/statistics ... eason=2009 He wont improve as an attacking centre & his defense has become a bit iffy at times, sell him off while we can get some decent money for him. People on here have consistantly talked about getting a top quality centre, someone the younger lads can learn off as well as adding some zing t our attack, well that isn't Yeaman. Wont pass to his wingman, cant pass for toffee anyway & has been said is a heads down type of runner & creates very little. In the main he's been great in defence & that for me has been his saving grace but though he might score a few tries how many more might we have scored if he'd passed the blasted egg. Sorry but for a supposed GB centre now in his prime he is a let down.

That's only because Manu has the freakish ability to break half a dozen tackles before sending Yeaman away. It's never clever link up play that sets him free, more a case of Manu having to perform miracles. Can you imagine how good Manu would be in a team that is able to create a bit of space out wide, he'd be unstopable.