[quote="Marcus's Bicycle":2hlprd5t]As you say you don't know the ins and outs. I don't wish injury on any player but you may also regret signing an half back who spends most of the season sat in the stands.[/quote:2hlprd5t] Exactly, I don`t know all of the ins and outs, but neither will any player you negotiate with, doesn`t look great does it? If the club are releasing him because he hasn`t met the terms of his contract etc, then they should be explicit in that, otherwise they look a little bit silly. Didn`t you sign him knowing his injury record and didn`t you do a medical before he signed his contract?

You've got to wonder what numpty sorted his medical out before signing off on the deal.

[quote="UllFC":1e015yfo]We announced Abdul had signed on 5th June and Cartwright's appointment on 21st May. So only 2 weeks prior so it might be the deal was already in progress but we don't always announce signings straight away so it could have been already in the bag. We also need to consider that the takeover wasn't a done deal back then, signings may have been on the frugal side (Abdull had cap exemptions) than now where we have lots of money in the bank.[/quote:1e015yfo] Dan broke the story about Abdul on 13th of may..

[quote="homme vaste":3t1fz62g]Exactly, I don`t know all of the ins and outs, but neither will any player you negotiate with, doesn`t look great does it? If the club are releasing him because he hasn`t met the terms of his contract etc, then they should be explicit in that, otherwise they look a little bit silly. Didn`t you sign him knowing his injury record and didn`t you do a medical before he signed his contract?[/quote:3t1fz62g] The club would have obviously known about his injury record but at the time thought it was a risk worth taking. The knee injury seems to be an ongoing problem and I would have thought an operation if needed would have taken place a couple of months ago. The latest article in the HDM suggests that it may not be entirely down to the injury but not meeting the more professional standards that he has brought in. Cartwright has shown ruthlessness which is something we've needed for years. Either way I'm disappointed because when fit he is a quality player. I hope he makes a full recovery and finds another club.

[quote="Mild Rover":1ek541nu]Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess. https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/ It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.[/quote:1ek541nu] The club only issues comms at 6pm, it's the law and for positive news for social media view reasons (gotta keep those IMG points rolling in)

[quote="Mild Rover":1ek541nu]Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess. https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/ It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.[/quote:1ek541nu] The club only issues comms at 6pm, it's the law and for positive news for social media view reasons (gotta keep those IMG points rolling in)

[quote="bishops finger":326dh49l]You've got to wonder what numpty sorted his medical out before signing off on the deal.[/quote:326dh49l] Medicals don't seem to be a thing in RL, possibly due to cost. Then again it doesn't always stop stupid decisions, years ago Hull City were allegedly told Jimmy Bullard's knee was a wreck but went ahead on a massive salary anyway.

Sad for Jordan but 100% behind the decision. Seems to me the contract was drawn fully aware of the risk, likely on the back of 'settlements' from KR & maybe Dragons ? Likely there was a date cut off - possibly first fixture of the year ?? We simply couldn't have another Truman situation so the call had to be made, hopefully hasn't cost the new owners too much.....we move on, but not with a marquee half on mega money sat in the stands for most of the season. IF it was attitude then he really made a potentially tricky decision very easy. Seems we are finally approaching a SL 'Culture'.

[quote="Dave K.":8wv2g7p6]So it continues, the Hull FC recruitment circus. Hope we have a plan. No quota spots isn't easy, Sneyd or Will Pryce.[/quote:8wv2g7p6] Surely the club knows we need a running half with pace. That was why the signing of Abdul made no sense irrespective of his injury record Maybe its not easy but Sneyd is not the answer to compliment Sezer We may as well run with we have and find that running half back we really need even if we have to wait for 2026 season. We dont need any more fillers its a poor strategy

[quote="Jake the Peg":1abjz7gc]FFS, it was always going to end in tears. I hope he hasn't cost us too much given he hasn't even completed a pre season[/quote:1abjz7gc] In Ritchie we trust Whatever the cost is it shouldnt have happened given all the warning signs about Abduls injuries, plus a three year contract to add salt into the clubs wounds.

Well, I go away for a few hours and it's all change!! Obviously, none of us know the full details behind Abdull's departure, but I think we may have dodged a bullet here. Unfortunately the situation with him was beginning to ominously look like Truman part II. The club's actions here do come across as a touch ruthless, but the new regime clearly feel they need to implement the 'new culture' from the off. The concern I would have here is that we need to be careful not to gain a reputation for being too ruthless, ironically. Abdull's swift exit, not long after Walker's equally swift demise, may lead to potential targets seeking contracts which are heavily slanted in their favour before committing to us. Elite sport is a cut throat business, but it is something to bear in mind as the new regime progresses.

[quote="homme vaste":kpd1csk0]Surely the Brutal decision making, in this case (without knowing all of the ins and outs) being get an injury and we will just get rid of you, might have an effect on your reputation as a club when players are looking at where to sign? If I was a player, it would certainly put me off.[/quote:kpd1csk0] Really!!!!! If I were signing I think it would point to a club who means business. Do you really think that it would have put Asiata off signing had he know about this before hand? if It would only put me off as a player if I was signing for the club and in the process trying to pull the wool over the clubs eyes. There is more to this than simply getting rid of a player because he is injured, perhaps more than we appreciated when we signed him. As a club the parameters by which you are judged behaviour, dedication and attitude wise have changed immensely. The truth may or may not come out but it certainly won't come from the club. In fact as yet nothing has come out from the club at all so we await an announcement.

[quote="The Dentist Wilf":w1mmi9pf]The truth may or may not come out but it certainly won't come from the club.[/quote:w1mmi9pf] I know what you meant, and I’m sure you know what I’m thinking.

As for the Sneyd situation, I'm really not sure. They always say 'never go back' and that might be the case here. I guess it would depend on what type of deal was thrashed out between player and club, but I can't imagine Sneyd would sign for only twelve months and on the cheap, and we certainly don't want to be investing too heavily in a player in his mid-thirties. I'm not sure there would be enough common ground to make this work satisfactorily for both sides. Plus a half back combination of Sezer & Sneyd doesn't look ideal, possibly too similar in style to be effective, especially given we're hardly blessed with pace across the back division. Although I'm not sure what our ideal line-up would be, given the current squad personnel. These are the kinds of decisions that Myler/Cartwright have to get right if we are to progress forward over the next 12/24 months. I would also hate for Sneyd to come back, in all the wrong circumstances, and bomb out. The guy played such a massive part in arguably the two greatest afternoon's in the club's entire history, that I would hate to see that tarnished in any way. Let's not forget that when he left us there was a general feeling that the time was right to part ways. I'm not sure what we could offer him at this stage in his career, apart from one last healthy pay day, which might not necessarily suit our purposes. I'll be surprised if this one comes off, but RL is such an incestuous sport you never know.

Officials from the Rugby Football League will return to Salford Red Devils this week to outline what the possible options for the club are moving forward: including the potential for cuts to their 2025 squad. Aaron Bower.

[quote="Marcus's Bicycle":24lopjdr]Officials from the Rugby Football League will return to Salford Red Devils this week to outline what the possible options for the club are moving forward: including the potential for cuts to their 2025 squad. Aaron Bower.[/quote:24lopjdr] Matt Shaw putting a piece out too on it. They've asked for an advance on the central funding but are taking the squad on a warm weather camp. Kinda admire the front of it

[quote="BP1":1n9dc9gh]As for the Sneyd situation, I'm really not sure. They always say 'never go back' and that might be the case here. I guess it would depend on what type of deal was thrashed out between player and club, but I can't imagine Sneyd would sign for only twelve months and on the cheap, and we certainly don't want to be investing too heavily in a player in his mid-thirties. I'm not sure there would be enough common ground to make this work satisfactorily for both sides. Plus a half back combination of Sezer & Sneyd doesn't look ideal, possibly too similar in style to be effective, especially given we're hardly blessed with pace across the back division. Although I'm not sure what our ideal line-up would be, given the current squad personnel. These are the kinds of decisions that Myler/Cartwright have to get right if we are to progress forward over the next 12/24 months. I would also hate for Sneyd to come back, in all the wrong circumstances, and bomb out. The guy played such a massive part in arguably the two greatest afternoon's in the club's entire history, that I would hate to see that tarnished in any way. Let's not forget that when he left us there was a general feeling that the time was right to part ways. I'm not sure what we could offer him at this stage in his career, apart from one last healthy pay day, which might not necessarily suit our purposes. I'll be surprised if this one comes off, but RL is such an incestuous sport you never know.[/quote:1n9dc9gh] Sneyd was below par in 2021 (along with most of the team) and it feels like a lifetime ago now but the team had gone from 80mins from the Grand Final to 8th which felt shocking at the time (oh if only we knew that wasn't rock bottom ) so yes I was in the mood for changes at the time and on paper former man of steel Gale fitted the bill...Hodgson also thought Connor could be the man to lead us around... What is noticeable though is how much fitter Sneyd looks at Salford, it's been well documented how poor and fitness has been the last few years. I agree with others that ideally he needs a runner with him though, he and Albert were an ideal combo.

Sezer captain Asiata vice

[quote="mwindass":30xhx02a]Matt Shaw putting a piece out too on it. They've asked for an advance on the central funding but are taking the squad on a warm weather camp. Kinda admire the front of it [/quote:30xhx02a] Absolutely shameless

[quote="Sebasteeno":1lh3ktww]Sezer captain Asiata vice[/quote:1lh3ktww] Bit of a surprise but if this is the consensus of the squad then that's good enough for me.

Sezer should be on the pitch for the full 80, wonder if that had any reasoning. Thought Asiata was nailed on for it

[quote="bonaire":igsgd3c3]In Ritchie we trust Whatever the cost is it shouldnt have happened given all the warning signs about Abduls injuries, plus a three year contract to add salt into the clubs wounds.[/quote:igsgd3c3] It's "Richie" as in "Richard".

[quote="ComeOnYouUll":339i629v]It's "Richie" as in "Richard".[/quote:339i629v] or dick

[quote="mwindass":q7wtf1ts]Sezer should be on the pitch for the full 80, wonder if that had any reasoning. Thought Asiata was nailed on for it[/quote:q7wtf1ts] Cartwright has coached Sezer before all the way back to I think 2012 so it could just be a case of he trusts him

[quote="Dave K.":2kes84cf]Nothing to do with playing for the academy, any non fed player can be a marquee and only 50k count on the cap. So this would be Sneyd[/quote:2kes84cf] Non fed is overseas isn't it and £150k on the cap, fed trained £100k and academy product £50k, or at least that is what it was unless it's changed again

Some sad reports out that Salford's plight is worsening. Don't think their imminent warm weather training departure will Garner sympathy with fellow clubs. It all adds up. We wouldn't have released Abdull without an immediate turnaround. Feel it for Salford.