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| I hope Lewis does go to the nrl,would be hilarious,he’d be back in a year with 1 appearance,and lots of nsw cup experience
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| [quote="Hullfc-white":24nb0jxf]I hope Lewis does go to the nrl,would be hilarious,he’d be back in a year with 1 appearance,and lots of nsw cup experience[/quote:24nb0jxf]
I personally think he would go really well over there
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| Was Abdul signed by Cartwright?
I'd imagine that it isn't just the injury concerns behind this.
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| [quote="Irregs#16":d1jfzpfk]I personally think he would go really well over there[/quote:d1jfzpfk]
Personally as someone who watches just about every nrl game,I don’t..but anyway,would we be happy to sneyd back?
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| [quote="Dave K.":3opp17is]Was Abdul signed by Cartwright?
I'd imagine that it isn't just the injury concerns behind this.[/quote:3opp17is]it isn’t as Dan implies in his latest piece.
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| Here is the article Wilf mentions:
[url:27ax02mp]https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fcs-cut-throat-stance-9846337[/url:27ax02mp]
It's a good stance for the club to take. Sends a good message out to the players. The time for coasting at the club is over otherwise you won't be here.
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| Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.
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| [quote="HU8HFC":1rijv6z6]Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.[/quote:1rijv6z6]
Surely the Brutal decision making, in this case (without knowing all of the ins and outs) being get an injury and we will just get rid of you, might have an effect on your reputation as a club when players are looking at where to sign? If I was a player, it would certainly put me off.
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| [quote="homme vaste":bdjkayka]Surely the Brutal decision making, in this case [quote:bdjkayka](without knowing all of the ins and outs) being get an injury and we will just get rid of you[/quote:bdjkayka], might have an effect on your reputation as a club when players are looking at where to sign? If I was a player, it would certainly put me off.[/quote:bdjkayka]
As you say you don't know the ins and outs. I don't wish injury on any player but you may also regret signing an half back who spends most of the season sat in the stands.
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| [quote="Cuddleclub":jh34vm9y]Lewis will go to the NRL, well that was the plan before he got his Mrs pregnant anyway, so whether that changes things.[/quote:jh34vm9y]
I’d heard she fancies the move as much as him , if he does at all , apparently she’s related to Josh Hodgsons mrs .
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| We announced Abdul had signed on 5th June and Cartwright's appointment on 21st May.
So only 2 weeks prior so it might be the deal was already in progress but we don't always announce signings straight away so it could have been already in the bag.
We also need to consider that the takeover wasn't a done deal back then, signings may have been on the frugal side (Abdull had cap exemptions) than now where we have lots of money in the bank.
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[quote="HU8HFC":3nzhghcl]Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.[/quote:3nzhghcl]
Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.
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[quote="HU8HFC":3nzhghcl]Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.[/quote:3nzhghcl]
Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.
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| [quote="Marcus's Bicycle":2hlprd5t]As you say you don't know the ins and outs. I don't wish injury on any player but you may also regret signing an half back who spends most of the season sat in the stands.[/quote:2hlprd5t]
Exactly, I don`t know all of the ins and outs, but neither will any player you negotiate with, doesn`t look great does it? If the club are releasing him because he hasn`t met the terms of his contract etc, then they should be explicit in that, otherwise they look a little bit silly.
Didn`t you sign him knowing his injury record and didn`t you do a medical before he signed his contract?
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| You've got to wonder what numpty sorted his medical out before signing off on the deal.
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| [quote="UllFC":1e015yfo]We announced Abdul had signed on 5th June and Cartwright's appointment on 21st May.
So only 2 weeks prior so it might be the deal was already in progress but we don't always announce signings straight away so it could have been already in the bag.
We also need to consider that the takeover wasn't a done deal back then, signings may have been on the frugal side (Abdull had cap exemptions) than now where we have lots of money in the bank.[/quote:1e015yfo]
Dan broke the story about Abdul on 13th of may..
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| [quote="homme vaste":3t1fz62g]Exactly, I don`t know all of the ins and outs, but neither will any player you negotiate with, doesn`t look great does it? If the club are releasing him because he hasn`t met the terms of his contract etc, then they should be explicit in that, otherwise they look a little bit silly.
Didn`t you sign him knowing his injury record and didn`t you do a medical before he signed his contract?[/quote:3t1fz62g]
The club would have obviously known about his injury record but at the time thought it was a risk worth taking.
The knee injury seems to be an ongoing problem and I would have thought an operation if needed would have taken place a couple of months ago.
The latest article in the HDM suggests that it may not be entirely down to the injury but not meeting the more professional standards that he has brought in. Cartwright has shown ruthlessness which is something we've needed for years.
Either way I'm disappointed because when fit he is a quality player. I hope he makes a full recovery and finds another club.
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[quote="Mild Rover":1ek541nu]Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.[/quote:1ek541nu]
The club only issues comms at 6pm, it's the law and for positive news for social media view reasons (gotta keep those IMG points rolling in)
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[quote="Mild Rover":1ek541nu]Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.[/quote:1ek541nu]
The club only issues comms at 6pm, it's the law and for positive news for social media view reasons (gotta keep those IMG points rolling in)
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| [quote="bishops finger":326dh49l]You've got to wonder what numpty sorted his medical out before signing off on the deal.[/quote:326dh49l]
Medicals don't seem to be a thing in RL, possibly due to cost. Then again it doesn't always stop stupid decisions, years ago Hull City were allegedly told Jimmy Bullard's knee was a wreck but went ahead on a massive salary anyway.
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| Sad for Jordan but 100% behind the decision.
Seems to me the contract was drawn fully aware of the risk, likely on the back of 'settlements' from KR & maybe Dragons ?
Likely there was a date cut off - possibly first fixture of the year ?? We simply couldn't have another Truman situation so the call had to be made, hopefully hasn't cost the new owners too much.....we move on, but not with a marquee half on mega money sat in the stands for most of the season.
IF it was attitude then he really made a potentially tricky decision very easy. Seems we are finally approaching a SL 'Culture'.
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| [quote="Dave K.":8wv2g7p6]So it continues, the Hull FC recruitment circus. Hope we have a plan.
No quota spots isn't easy, Sneyd or Will Pryce.[/quote:8wv2g7p6]
Surely the club knows we need a running half with pace.
That was why the signing of Abdul made no sense irrespective of his injury record
Maybe its not easy but Sneyd is not the answer to compliment Sezer
We may as well run with we have and find that running half back we really need even if we have to wait for 2026 season.
We dont need any more fillers its a poor strategy
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| [quote="Jake the Peg":1abjz7gc]FFS, it was always going to end in tears. I hope he hasn't cost us too much given he hasn't even completed a pre season[/quote:1abjz7gc]
In Ritchie we trust
Whatever the cost is it shouldnt have happened given all the warning signs about Abduls injuries, plus a three year contract to add salt into the clubs wounds.
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| Well, I go away for a few hours and it's all change!!
Obviously, none of us know the full details behind Abdull's departure, but I think we may have dodged a bullet here. Unfortunately the situation with him was beginning to ominously look like Truman part II.
The club's actions here do come across as a touch ruthless, but the new regime clearly feel they need to implement the 'new culture' from the off.
The concern I would have here is that we need to be careful not to gain a reputation for being too ruthless, ironically. Abdull's swift exit, not long after Walker's equally swift demise, may lead to potential targets seeking contracts which are heavily slanted in their favour before committing to us. Elite sport is a cut throat business, but it is something to bear in mind as the new regime progresses.
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| [quote="homme vaste":kpd1csk0]Surely the Brutal decision making, in this case (without knowing all of the ins and outs) being get an injury and we will just get rid of you, might have an effect on your reputation as a club when players are looking at where to sign? If I was a player, it would certainly put me off.[/quote:kpd1csk0]
Really!!!!! If I were signing I think it would point to a club who means business. Do you really think that it would have put Asiata off signing had he know about this before hand? if It would only put me off as a player if I was signing for the club and in the process trying to pull the wool over the clubs eyes. There is more to this than simply getting rid of a player because he is injured, perhaps more than we appreciated when we signed him.
As a club the parameters by which you are judged behaviour, dedication and attitude wise have changed immensely. The truth may or may not come out but it certainly won't come from the club. In fact as yet nothing has come out from the club at all so we await an announcement.
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| [quote="The Dentist Wilf":w1mmi9pf]The truth may or may not come out but it certainly won't come from the club.[/quote:w1mmi9pf]
I know what you meant, and I’m sure you know what I’m thinking.
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| As for the Sneyd situation, I'm really not sure. They always say 'never go back' and that might be the case here.
I guess it would depend on what type of deal was thrashed out between player and club, but I can't imagine Sneyd would sign for only twelve months and on the cheap, and we certainly don't want to be investing too heavily in a player in his mid-thirties. I'm not sure there would be enough common ground to make this work satisfactorily for both sides.
Plus a half back combination of Sezer & Sneyd doesn't look ideal, possibly too similar in style to be effective, especially given we're hardly blessed with pace across the back division. Although I'm not sure what our ideal line-up would be, given the current squad personnel. These are the kinds of decisions that Myler/Cartwright have to get right if we are to progress forward over the next 12/24 months.
I would also hate for Sneyd to come back, in all the wrong circumstances, and bomb out. The guy played such a massive part in arguably the two greatest afternoon's in the club's entire history, that I would hate to see that tarnished in any way. Let's not forget that when he left us there was a general feeling that the time was right to part ways. I'm not sure what we could offer him at this stage in his career, apart from one last healthy pay day, which might not necessarily suit our purposes.
I'll be surprised if this one comes off, but RL is such an incestuous sport you never know.
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