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| [quote="Dave K.":2hwbhupb]Yes 50k for home grown and 100k for non fed, I was wrong, although I've read about 5 articles that say different things [/quote:2hwbhupb]
Like I say regardless of the specifics of the marquee rules Lewis is happy enough to commit to Rovers and even if he did fancy a crack in Aus it would have to be on Rovers terms now he’s committed. They’d sooner fold the club then let him join Hull it’s pointless even discussing it.
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| [quote="bishops finger":2kij06sm]Sad news about Abdul, hopefully somewhere down the line he gets his body right and can carry on with his rugby.[/quote:2kij06sm]
Yeah real shame I was looking forward to watching him.play Hull and hoping he could get back to his early Rovers form.
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| [list=][/list][quote="DSJ1983":3sfkrgmz]There is a specific dispensation for one academy player though isn’t there?
Either way we might have wealthy owners but the money McNichol has ploughed into Rovers for seemingly no financial return is huge in RL terms like it or not they’ll be able to match or better any Hull offer. There’s absolutely no way Lewis joins Hull when he’s contracted until 2028. That is one move that’s certainly won’t happen regardless of marquee status. Even in an NRL scenario Rovers will have stipulations ensuring he rejoins them if they did let him go early.[/quote:3sfkrgmz]
Wigan thought they were getting Williams back when he returned from nrl , look how that turned out . Can’t force a player to play for you if he doesn’t want too .
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| Lewis will go to the NRL, well that was the plan before he got his Mrs pregnant anyway, so whether that changes things.
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| I hope Lewis does go to the nrl,would be hilarious,he’d be back in a year with 1 appearance,and lots of nsw cup experience
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| [quote="Hullfc-white":24nb0jxf]I hope Lewis does go to the nrl,would be hilarious,he’d be back in a year with 1 appearance,and lots of nsw cup experience[/quote:24nb0jxf]
I personally think he would go really well over there
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| Was Abdul signed by Cartwright?
I'd imagine that it isn't just the injury concerns behind this.
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| [quote="Irregs#16":d1jfzpfk]I personally think he would go really well over there[/quote:d1jfzpfk]
Personally as someone who watches just about every nrl game,I don’t..but anyway,would we be happy to sneyd back?
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| [quote="Dave K.":3opp17is]Was Abdul signed by Cartwright?
I'd imagine that it isn't just the injury concerns behind this.[/quote:3opp17is]it isn’t as Dan implies in his latest piece.
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| Here is the article Wilf mentions:
[url:27ax02mp]https://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/hull-fcs-cut-throat-stance-9846337[/url:27ax02mp]
It's a good stance for the club to take. Sends a good message out to the players. The time for coasting at the club is over otherwise you won't be here.
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| Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.
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| [quote="HU8HFC":1rijv6z6]Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.[/quote:1rijv6z6]
Surely the Brutal decision making, in this case (without knowing all of the ins and outs) being get an injury and we will just get rid of you, might have an effect on your reputation as a club when players are looking at where to sign? If I was a player, it would certainly put me off.
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| [quote="homme vaste":bdjkayka]Surely the Brutal decision making, in this case [quote:bdjkayka](without knowing all of the ins and outs) being get an injury and we will just get rid of you[/quote:bdjkayka], might have an effect on your reputation as a club when players are looking at where to sign? If I was a player, it would certainly put me off.[/quote:bdjkayka]
As you say you don't know the ins and outs. I don't wish injury on any player but you may also regret signing an half back who spends most of the season sat in the stands.
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| [quote="Cuddleclub":jh34vm9y]Lewis will go to the NRL, well that was the plan before he got his Mrs pregnant anyway, so whether that changes things.[/quote:jh34vm9y]
I’d heard she fancies the move as much as him , if he does at all , apparently she’s related to Josh Hodgsons mrs .
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| We announced Abdul had signed on 5th June and Cartwright's appointment on 21st May.
So only 2 weeks prior so it might be the deal was already in progress but we don't always announce signings straight away so it could have been already in the bag.
We also need to consider that the takeover wasn't a done deal back then, signings may have been on the frugal side (Abdull had cap exemptions) than now where we have lots of money in the bank.
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[quote="HU8HFC":3nzhghcl]Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.[/quote:3nzhghcl]
Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.
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[quote="HU8HFC":3nzhghcl]Agree it is the correct stance to take, we have wanted brutal decision making at this club for some time and it appears we now have it. Plenty of rumours flying round today as to Abdulls situation, some paint him in a bad light, other pass blame on to previous employers. I suppose we will never truly know the full ins and outs.
It would be interesting to know if Myler was behind the signing of Abdull, or if plans for him to join where in place prior to Mylers arrival. I do hope it was the latter.[/quote:3nzhghcl]
Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.
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| [quote="Marcus's Bicycle":2hlprd5t]As you say you don't know the ins and outs. I don't wish injury on any player but you may also regret signing an half back who spends most of the season sat in the stands.[/quote:2hlprd5t]
Exactly, I don`t know all of the ins and outs, but neither will any player you negotiate with, doesn`t look great does it? If the club are releasing him because he hasn`t met the terms of his contract etc, then they should be explicit in that, otherwise they look a little bit silly.
Didn`t you sign him knowing his injury record and didn`t you do a medical before he signed his contract?
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| You've got to wonder what numpty sorted his medical out before signing off on the deal.
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| [quote="UllFC":1e015yfo]We announced Abdul had signed on 5th June and Cartwright's appointment on 21st May.
So only 2 weeks prior so it might be the deal was already in progress but we don't always announce signings straight away so it could have been already in the bag.
We also need to consider that the takeover wasn't a done deal back then, signings may have been on the frugal side (Abdull had cap exemptions) than now where we have lots of money in the bank.[/quote:1e015yfo]
Dan broke the story about Abdul on 13th of may..
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| [quote="homme vaste":3t1fz62g]Exactly, I don`t know all of the ins and outs, but neither will any player you negotiate with, doesn`t look great does it? If the club are releasing him because he hasn`t met the terms of his contract etc, then they should be explicit in that, otherwise they look a little bit silly.
Didn`t you sign him knowing his injury record and didn`t you do a medical before he signed his contract?[/quote:3t1fz62g]
The club would have obviously known about his injury record but at the time thought it was a risk worth taking.
The knee injury seems to be an ongoing problem and I would have thought an operation if needed would have taken place a couple of months ago.
The latest article in the HDM suggests that it may not be entirely down to the injury but not meeting the more professional standards that he has brought in. Cartwright has shown ruthlessness which is something we've needed for years.
Either way I'm disappointed because when fit he is a quality player. I hope he makes a full recovery and finds another club.
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[quote="Mild Rover":1ek541nu]Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.[/quote:1ek541nu]
The club only issues comms at 6pm, it's the law and for positive news for social media view reasons (gotta keep those IMG points rolling in)
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[quote="Mild Rover":1ek541nu]Myler expressed delight at the signing back in June. Although he was looking forward to seeing him partner with Trueman at the time, with Morgan Smith being noted as another hb option. 6 months is a long time in RL, I guess.
https://www.hullfc.com/blog/2024/06/05/ ... s-in-2025/
It’s certainly an odd one. Abdull had 2 years to run on his Rovers contract and mentioned he’d had the option of another year in France when he agreed to join Hull, in a recent interview with Tomlinson. I can’t imagine he’d have taken a contract massively loaded in Hull’s favour in those circumstances. However, if it is a biggish pay-off then surely there’s a case for just de-registering and seeing how the land lies later in the year… unless there’s something else. Nothing on the Hull FC website when I checked a little earlier but i imagine it’ll be one of those very brief ‘released, wish him well’ ones, anyway.[/quote:1ek541nu]
The club only issues comms at 6pm, it's the law and for positive news for social media view reasons (gotta keep those IMG points rolling in)
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| [quote="bishops finger":326dh49l]You've got to wonder what numpty sorted his medical out before signing off on the deal.[/quote:326dh49l]
Medicals don't seem to be a thing in RL, possibly due to cost. Then again it doesn't always stop stupid decisions, years ago Hull City were allegedly told Jimmy Bullard's knee was a wreck but went ahead on a massive salary anyway.
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| Sad for Jordan but 100% behind the decision.
Seems to me the contract was drawn fully aware of the risk, likely on the back of 'settlements' from KR & maybe Dragons ?
Likely there was a date cut off - possibly first fixture of the year ?? We simply couldn't have another Truman situation so the call had to be made, hopefully hasn't cost the new owners too much.....we move on, but not with a marquee half on mega money sat in the stands for most of the season.
IF it was attitude then he really made a potentially tricky decision very easy. Seems we are finally approaching a SL 'Culture'.
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| [quote="Dave K.":8wv2g7p6]So it continues, the Hull FC recruitment circus. Hope we have a plan.
No quota spots isn't easy, Sneyd or Will Pryce.[/quote:8wv2g7p6]
Surely the club knows we need a running half with pace.
That was why the signing of Abdul made no sense irrespective of his injury record
Maybe its not easy but Sneyd is not the answer to compliment Sezer
We may as well run with we have and find that running half back we really need even if we have to wait for 2026 season.
We dont need any more fillers its a poor strategy
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| [quote="Jake the Peg":1abjz7gc]FFS, it was always going to end in tears. I hope he hasn't cost us too much given he hasn't even completed a pre season[/quote:1abjz7gc]
In Ritchie we trust
Whatever the cost is it shouldnt have happened given all the warning signs about Abduls injuries, plus a three year contract to add salt into the clubs wounds.
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