Not a criticism Dave, but I see this comment a lot about some of our emerging players. At what point do they become ready?

I would have thought that having being drip fed into the team then given a decent run of matches at the end where it was not win at all costs was the ideal preparation to train the house down in the off season and come back demanding a position in the starting line up.

Really looking forward to seeing Adam explain this one away.

And, if the intention was to keep Westerman all along, presumably the club now has a hefty chunk of salary cap to play with, not to mention a six-figure transfer fee!

Anyone else not totally convinced?

In a salary cap sport I guess we should be asking does his salary reflect what he gives us on the pitch? I'd suggest baring 1 season he has been poor value for money. I'd be very disappointed if we signed him on a longer and improved contract

This is why I mentioned those who are over analysing this situation. Why the big interest in how the owner is going to explain this? What exactly are you not convinced about?

I was under the impression that we were supposed to support the club, not look for ways to attack it

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Wrong.


Correct.


You think two top coaches haven't bothered to look past his reputation?

Not hard to explain really, is it?
Pearson says he made an extension offer to Westerman who said No, and I'm leaving at end of current contract. Another club makes an offer which in the circumstances is too good to refuse. Pearson accepts.
Where's the drama? Things change. IF, he's gone, we move on without him, but with, potentially, a very good squad.

Couldn't agree more the guy may have been promised a very good improved deal at wire if he signs or just wants a fresh challenge and has told the club this you can not blame the club for cashing in and his form in my opinion has been very inconsistent its not like where short of very good back row forwards or good young kids knocking on the door good bit of business if its true and he's away hope this gives us cap space to improve in other vital areas

Just needs to improve his fitness and defence in order to play at LF. We have lots of people to play there, so there is no rush.

I'd have Logan starting next season at centre though.

If you are going to argue a point, you can't just put wrong can you?

Name me examples of this attacking play this season?

On reputation, I was talking more about his ability as a youngster, which he hasn't fulfilled rather than off the field.

I dont think we could afford to keep Westerman anyway given who we've brought in and AP probably needed to offload him.
. I also read that we got more like 50k for him, considering Leeds were reported as not wanting to cough a fee (maybe player exchange?) It wouldn't surprise me.
I honestly can't see us getting £100k never mind £150k given how he performed this season gone, not that it was bad just not good enough to justify aa huge fee for a player with only one year on his contract left.

This is the crux of the issue.

Has Adam strung everyone along, knowing Joe was always going?

Why has he strung people along??

This is the bit your are not explaining.

As has been mentioned, circumstances change and we are loaded up in the forwards. We play in a salary capped sport, something has to give. We have no idea as to when Warringtons interest became a genuine bid. For all we know this could have been 3 months ago or 2 weeks ago.

ATEOTD, it really doesn't matter. If you base a decision whether to attend or not based on what the owner comes out with then that puts you in a fairly unique position.

Leeds agreed terms with Westerman but wouldn't agree to £150k transfer fee Hull were demanding. Leeds were hoping Hull would lower their fee but in meantime Warrington agreed to meet your £150k transfer fee valuation so that's where he's ended up. Leeds wanted Westerman for some reason (I can't work out why) but not at the price Hull were demanding.

I liked westy but if he wants to go and we get a fee then so be it,it does make me laugh that a few on here am sure come on just to mischief make,if we had kept him and then he had left next year some would have said pearson should have sold him,imo Abdull should be slowly intergrated into the num13 shirt as I see him as our future

JMR is a Rovers troll who went missing from here for about four years.

IF this is correct, then it is a very good bit of business by Pearson.

I agree, if we did get £150k for Westerman then it's top dollar (above top dollar IMHO) but as we all know what is said out loud is all speculation, without any hard facts that's all it will ever be including how much Lees were supposedly offering/not offering.

Even if AP comes out and tells us it's X I wouldn't believe a word given some of the carp that comes out of his mouth. It's easy to say we got £xxxx (overinflated figure) in a club announcement without it being actually true but it would certainly ensure fans are more forgiving/accepting than say if it were a much lower figure that's for sure, we certainly couldn't disprove it without being able to look at the books.
It's the fact I've heard lots of nonsense/abject lies coming out of APs mouth that I for one can't take what he is saying as the truth anymore.

Either way i still don't think we could have kept Westerman and be under the cap, I stated as much 2-3 months ago

That question will be easily answered when we find out if a wedge of salary cap has suddenly become available. if it has then I've no issues with us selling him. If we've already spent it on manu then the owner has been lying out of his ass

To be fair to Pearson it would not strengthen his negotiating position if he announced we needed to offload Westerman to get under the salary cap (which seems quite likely to me)

Getting anything over 100k for Westerman is fantastic business IMO.

I don't disagree but just don't say anything. Thinking about it, presume we must be under the cap with westerman in there or the RFL wouldn't have allowed us to register manu (unless he isn't yet registered)

They should have just said nothing.

........... so
is less likely. Thank goodness for that.

Westerman to Warrington will be confirmed tomorrow.

I hope so, we can then how a couple of days of moaning and complaining and then we can move on.

I think I'll avoid this forum for a couple of days when it's announced.

No problem for me if we got a fee.