[quote="Blackandwhitebigdog":xku9ilm7]This daft marquee rule. Because Mikey Lewis played for the city of Hull Academy. If we signed him as a marquee would his wage only count as 50k on the cap?[/quote:xku9ilm7] Nothing to do with playing for the academy, any non fed player can be a marquee and only 50k count on the cap. So this would be Sneyd

[quote="Blackandwhitebigdog":245wmeqn]This daft marquee rule. Because Mikey Lewis played for the city of Hull Academy. If we signed him as a marquee would his wage only count as 50k on the cap?[/quote:245wmeqn] Lewis isn't coming right now, and I'm going to be bold here and say I'm not sure he'd be the right fit now anyway he is working well adding off the cuff plays to a good structure. We don't have a structure adding a half back doing random off the cuff stuff might lead to the odd try or two but it doesn't fix all our issues.

[quote="scarrie":wdfexr02]It's never dull is it! I can only assume Abdul was going to be out for a significant chunk of the year or was showing up so badly that the club don't see it putting us in any worse position even if we can't get a replacement in.[/quote:wdfexr02] The whole season if had the operation, which is what they wanted to do.

[quote="scarrie":1x8smxxu]It's never dull is it! I can only assume Abdul was going to be out for a significant chunk of the year or was showing up so badly that the club don't see it putting us in any worse position even if we can't get a replacement in.[/quote:1x8smxxu] Knee injury a lot worse than initially said, Catalans should have sorted it out last year but they wouldn’t pay for it even though was in the loan agreement with rovers they was responsible for his medical bills. I said we’d struggle to get 10/15 games out of him didn’t expect it to be because he’s not here

[quote="UllFC":15gkshft]Lewis isn't coming right now, and I'm going to be bold here and say I'm not sure he'd be the right fit now anyway he is working well adding off the cuff plays to a good structure. We don't have a structure adding a half back doing random off the cuff stuff might lead to the odd try or two but it doesn't fix all our issues.[/quote:15gkshft] Lewis would be an unbelievable signing, he has developed alot into more than just an off the cuff player. I don't think Lewis will ever play for Hull personally.

[quote="Dave K.":rvjnh6cm]Nothing to do with playing for the academy, any non fed player can be a marquee and only 50k count on the cap. So this would be Sneyd[/quote:rvjnh6cm] Actually I think it's only 50k if the player is club trained but 75k for fed trained. So Sneyd (if he came back) would be 75k but Lewis (not that it will happen) would be 50k because he was at the City of Hull Academy.

[quote="Dave K.":23ihnh7r]Nothing to do with playing for the academy, any non fed player can be a marquee and only 50k count on the cap. So this would be Sneyd[/quote:23ihnh7r] That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k

[quote="Cuddleclub":1vwksz73]Knee injury a lot worse than initially said, Catalans should have sorted it out last year but they wouldn’t pay for it even though was in the loan agreement with rovers they was responsible for his medical bills. I said we’d struggle to get 10/15 games out of him didn’t expect it to be because he’s not here [/quote:1vwksz73] This is where the club needs to get a lot smarter, Catalan had the chance to keep him and early performances were promising but decided not to. Rovers of course had already loaned him out. We should have read the signs.

[quote="Cuddleclub":gbjienf3]That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k[/quote:gbjienf3] You can definitely have 2 marquee overseas players, we have two for certain.

[quote="Cuddleclub":1x58hini]That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k[/quote:1x58hini] You can have 2 x overseas marquees, it's the 3rd one that needs to be 'British' Shows the salary cap rules are now clear as mud and I guarantee the geniuses at the RFL aren't on the ball with it either

[quote="Dave K.":2igic7x8]Lewis would be an unbelievable signing, he has developed alot into more than just an off the cuff player. I don't think Lewis will ever play for Hull personally.[/quote:2igic7x8] My thinking is he'll end up in the NRL soon. And Rovers will have first refusal if he comes back here. If he comes to us it'll be towards the end of his career.

[quote="UllFC":2vpie5hj]This is where the club needs to get a lot smarter, Catalan had the chance to keep him and early performances were promising but decided not to. Rovers of course had already loaned him out. We should have read the signs.[/quote:2vpie5hj] Agreed, was a poor signing and 3 years was just ludicrous.

[quote="Cuddleclub":19iynb8p]That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k[/quote:19iynb8p] The figures are right though, 100k for Sneyd compared ti 50k for Abdul.

[quote="UllFC":216zb3ss]You can have 2 x overseas marquees, it's the 3rd one that needs to be 'British' Shows the salary cap rules are now clear as mud and I guarantee the geniuses at the RFL aren't on the ball with it either [/quote:216zb3ss] Either way Sneyd wouldn’t count as 50k player

[quote="Dave K.":2xhmj4xz]Nothing to do with playing for the academy, any non fed player can be a marquee and only 50k count on the cap. So this would be Sneyd[/quote:2xhmj4xz] There is a specific dispensation for one academy player though isn’t there? Either way we might have wealthy owners but the money McNichol has ploughed into Rovers for seemingly no financial return is huge in RL terms like it or not they’ll be able to match or better any Hull offer. There’s absolutely no way Lewis joins Hull when he’s contracted until 2028. That is one move that’s certainly won’t happen regardless of marquee status. Even in an NRL scenario Rovers will have stipulations ensuring he rejoins them if they did let him go early.

[quote="Cuddleclub":3lfn3znn]That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k[/quote:3lfn3znn] I thought you were allowed 2 marquees? ie Rapana and Asiata.

[quote="Cuddleclub":2kqifd3r]That’s not true - 3 marquees 1 x overseas 150k anything above doesn’t count 1 x fed trained (eg someone like if you signed him Welsby) 100k 1 x fed trained through your academy 50k[/quote:2kqifd3r] Posted the link for this on an earlier post but just for clarification: [url:2kqifd3r]https://www.rugby-league.com/article/61799/changes-to-salary-cap-regulations-for-2024[/url:2kqifd3r] [quote:2kqifd3r]Clubs will now be permitted up to three Marquee Players (up from two), but only if at least one of them is Federation Trained. Whereas previously all Marquee Players were counted as £150,000 on a club’s salary cap, with the exception of Club-Trained players who counted as £75,000, now Club-Trained Marquee Players will count as £50,000; Federation-Trained Marquee Players will count as £100,000; and Non-Federation Trained Marquee Players will remain valued at £150,000 in salary cap calculations.[/quote:2kqifd3r] This was last years update. Has anything changed for the 2025 season?

[quote="Marcus's Bicycle":1buky6xe]I thought you were allowed 2 marquees? ie Rapana and Asiata.[/quote:1buky6xe] Sorry already clarified.

[quote="DSJ1983":15t315et]There is a specific dispensation for one academy player though isn’t there? Either way we might have wealthy owners but the money McNichol has ploughed into Rovers for seemingly no financial return is huge in RL terms like it or not they’ll be able to match or better any Hull offer. There’s absolutely no way Lewis joins Hull when he’s contracted until 2028. That is one move that’s certainly won’t happen regardless of marquee status. Even in an NRL scenario Rovers will have stipulations ensuring he rejoins them if they did let him go early.[/quote:15t315et] Yes 50k for home grown and 100k for non fed, I was wrong, although I've read about 5 articles that say different things

[quote="Dave K.":115cuhfh]Yes 50k for home grown and 100k for non fed, I was wrong, although I've read about 5 articles that say different things [/quote:115cuhfh] Same. I was convinced the non fed part was 75k and didn't even bother to initially read the article I shared.

Sad news about Abdul, hopefully somewhere down the line he gets his body right and can carry on with his rugby.

[quote="Dave K.":2hwbhupb]Yes 50k for home grown and 100k for non fed, I was wrong, although I've read about 5 articles that say different things [/quote:2hwbhupb] Like I say regardless of the specifics of the marquee rules Lewis is happy enough to commit to Rovers and even if he did fancy a crack in Aus it would have to be on Rovers terms now he’s committed. They’d sooner fold the club then let him join Hull it’s pointless even discussing it.

[quote="bishops finger":2kij06sm]Sad news about Abdul, hopefully somewhere down the line he gets his body right and can carry on with his rugby.[/quote:2kij06sm] Yeah real shame I was looking forward to watching him.play Hull and hoping he could get back to his early Rovers form.

[list=][/list][quote="DSJ1983":3sfkrgmz]There is a specific dispensation for one academy player though isn’t there? Either way we might have wealthy owners but the money McNichol has ploughed into Rovers for seemingly no financial return is huge in RL terms like it or not they’ll be able to match or better any Hull offer. There’s absolutely no way Lewis joins Hull when he’s contracted until 2028. That is one move that’s certainly won’t happen regardless of marquee status. Even in an NRL scenario Rovers will have stipulations ensuring he rejoins them if they did let him go early.[/quote:3sfkrgmz] Wigan thought they were getting Williams back when he returned from nrl , look how that turned out . Can’t force a player to play for you if he doesn’t want too .

Lewis will go to the NRL, well that was the plan before he got his Mrs pregnant anyway, so whether that changes things.