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| Quote ="easthullwesty"Yeah that would be my question too. Lack of application? not buying into the ethos? either way, hes still a quality player at his best and no poorer than Turgit at his worst.'"
Westerman on one leg is better than Turgut at the moment.
Turgut needs a full season out on loan and a decision on his future at Hull made after that.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"Terrible player. All reputation and no substance. Unprofessional and anonymous in big games. Inferior player to Abdul. Absolutely gutted if this is true.'"
Inferior to Abdull? never
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| Tim Sheens told that we have signed westerman according to humberside
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| Can see Abdul going back to Rovers to be fair, he would slot straight in to their 17 to with Addy being out long term.
I like Abdul and think he is a talented player but for some reason it just doesn't seem to work for him at FC. Thought he'd make a great ball playing 13 for us and give us an extra edge.
Very undecided on hww I feel if Westerman returned to the club to be fair
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| Quote ="Darrell"www.totalrl.com/joe-westerman-set-for-shock-hull-fc-return/'"
Not too sure about Westerman being the answer for us; a lazy player. However, the article settles the noise about salary cap availability some posters obsessed on.
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| I've been a long time hater of westerman and his so called potential , he's not once proofed me wrong . But he's at an age now that he can't hide behind potential , and must surely know it's now or never , I'm willing to give him a chance to really show us what he can do. But please please please , no one mention his potential , that ship as sailed at least 5 year ago
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Sounds like Radford has spelt it out to him about the professional culture that is within the club and made clear so its up to Westerman to prove himself.
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Sounds like Radford has spelt it out to him about the professional culture that is within the club and made clear so its up to Westerman to prove himself.
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hope he proves me wrong, got to trust Lee and Ellis, getting a player back that you sold for £150K is worth a punt I guess.
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hope he proves me wrong, got to trust Lee and Ellis, getting a player back that you sold for £150K is worth a punt I guess.
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| To the uninitiated it will look like good business indeed. Sell a player that is valued at £150,000 farm him out for two years and get him back for free on a quarter of the wage that he was on when he left!
This thread reminds me of the one when we signed albert Kelly on the same deal.
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| Short term contract ; no lose scenario for hull.
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| It wouldn't surprise me if the next announcement is Abdull has signed for Rovers.
Very disappointing if it happens.
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| Quote ="PCollinson1990"hope he proves me wrong, got to trust Lee and Ellis, getting a player back that you sold for £150K is worth a punt I guess.'"
Absolutely. I have no issue with Westerman coming back if Radford thinks its the right thing. Anyone can see that he has an astute eye for signings and getting the best from them. He certainly won't stand for any nonsense and neither will the other players I reckon. Interesting times...
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| Not too sure about this one. Since he's been away I can't say we've missed him too much
I just used to think he tried too much, and ended up getting in our HB way most of the time. But, the people in charge have got more right than wrong recently.
I've also got a horrible feeling that he's a replacment for Mini or Manu, which would be a massive step down. If he's going to replace anyone then I hope it's Washy.
Next year a back row of: New Signing, Manu, Hadley and Westerman on the bench. Then you've got Lane, Turgut and Downs behind them
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| Quote ="Marcus's Bicycle"It wouldn't surprise me if the next announcement is Abdull has signed for Rovers.
Very disappointing if it happens.'"
It would be a shame yes, as he's a local lad, but realistically where does he currently fit?
Kelly is the incumbent stand-off, and Connor is his replacement and he is better than Abdul. Loose forward yes, but we don't tend to play that style.
Westerman will be a replacement for Minicello should he prove his worth I think.
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| Quote ="Stanley Unwin"Absolutely. I have no issue with Westerman coming back if Radford thinks its the right thing. Anyone can see that he has an astute eye for signings and getting the best from them. He certainly won't stand for any nonsense and neither will the other players I reckon. Interesting times...'"
Lee has done very little wrong, we need more ideas in attack, but back to back CC's suggest that isn't a huge issue. Qiestion now is where Connor and Griffin play, unless we know (the club) that Kelly is going...
as you say, interesting times!
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| Sounds a decent scenario.
Shape up or he'll be shipped out.
Said it would take a few weeks to get him in condition.
Will have to leave the ale & pies alone if he wants to be around next year.
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| Happier that its only til the end of the season with an option to extend. Pressure is then on him to perform
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| If you look at his stats last time he was here. He was second and third in tackles made in 14 and 15. This year our defence has been way off - scoring hasn't been a problem, but defensively we are conceding lots of points. He will help shore up our defence if he keeps his workrate up in that way. On rotation with Hadley it gives us two different styles of play - or with both in the back row gives us two varied styles of attack.
Give the guy a chance - he is a solid experienced player who we have made 150k out of and now pay him less than 2 years ago.
Probably means that we can sell Abdul to the highest bidder and recover a fee - as a contracted player who is under 24, we are entitled to a fee to cover his development as a minimum. Can see Wakey being interested - if as rumoured they have tried to flash the cash at Westerman.
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| happy with that, welcome back joe
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| Reading that article, think he's definitely been brought in to play 13 . Short deal at least which I'm happy about. Good luck joe
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| 1865 will be jizzing in his sock as we speak
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| We need another forward and without a non fed spot available we wouldn't likely have picked up anyone better without paying a fee and even then the other club has to want to sell.
Good move IMO. I thought he copped some unfair flak when with us before and he's a hard worker with a decent engine on him. He was always well up on the number of tackles and he's a big unit so if we use him correctly he'll certainly add something. I'd prefer to see him used wide out rather than in hadley's current ball playing role but hopefully he's jrer to work hard as he's getting near to last chance saloon if he's going to realise his undoubted talent.
As for abdul, he has some talent but doesn't have the speed for a half back or the physique for back row in a side with aspirations of top 4. i hope he goes to rovers if he does leave and that he does well there
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"We need another forward and without a non fed spot available we wouldn't likely have picked up anyone better without paying a fee and even then the other club has to want to sell.
Good move IMO. I thought he copped some unfair flak when with us before and he's a hard worker with a decent engine on him. He was always well up on the number of tackles and he's a big unit so if we use him correctly he'll certainly add something. I'd prefer to see him used wide out rather than in hadley's current ball playing role but hopefully he's jrer to work hard as he's getting near to last chance saloon if he's going to realise his undoubted talent.
As for abdul, he has some talent but doesn't have the speed for a half back or the physique for back row in a side with aspirations of top 4. i hope he goes to rovers if he does leave and that he does well there'"
It's is last tackle stupid penalties he gives away that destroys me about him , cut them out and stupid big hit miss tackles he attempts and sticks to the simple stuff done well, he could do ok
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| Quote ="mwindass"If he's going to replace anyone then I hope it's Washy.'"
I heard That Washy has a new one year deal on half money with a place on the coaching staff for 2020. Apparently Radders was not in favour but him and Lasty had a few heated words and this was the end result. Obviously I wasn't in the room at the time. It's just what I've been told. I think Mini could be on his way. What is he, 36?
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