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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"How anyone can make a judgement on tonights game without being there is baffling
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Remind Kosh and the others won't you?
Apparently only just over 3000 people could make a judgement on the game at Quins last week.
If it wasn't a crap enough argument anyway, when you've been getting the same dross served up for the past three years you really don't need to have your face rammed into the moldy main course again, regardless of how badly trained the waitress is.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"How anyone can make a judgement on tonights game without being there is baffling
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He's made his judgement, end of.
If I was as frustrated as the lad is though, I'd take some positive action.
Maybe get a sandwich board and parade up and down ouside the KC reception in his school breaks?
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| Quote ="PAUL M"Well you are not getting what I am saying that's why I ask. You ignored the rest of my post!'"
I ignored it because in the context of two wins in eleven games the blaming the ref route is a total cop out. You may disagree, as is your right, it just looks bad when the only people really backing you up are 5bellies and the Zebra from With.
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| Brilliant, we hear hardly anything from old Gaz B when we won last week, now we've lost he's all over the board like a rash. Fair weather protestor if ever there was one!
And with his usual patronizing and condescended manner. It's almost as predictable as sunrise, priceless.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Brilliant, we hear hardly anything from old Gaz B when we won last week, now we've lost he's all over the board like a rash. Fair weather protestor if ever there was one!
And with his usual patronizing and condescended manner. It's almost as predictable as sunrise, priceless.'"
Yeh good point, last week's win at Quins really shut me up.
I said that beating them meant nothing and 5 days later so it has come to prove.
Only this time apparently 'it's the refs fault'
Seriously, as much as we disagree, debating Agar is old news now. FFS let's just focus on putting him in the dole que where he belongs.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Brilliant, we hear hardly anything from old Gaz B when we won last week, now we've lost he's all over the board like a rash. Fair weather protestor if ever there was one! '"
At least Jake is consistent.
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| Quote ="jimmyfivebellies"How anyone can make a judgement on tonights game without being there is baffling
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I think people can make a judgement however the judgement is limited to what comes across on the radio. I have my opinions of tonights game however I agree those at the game have a far better idea of what the true picture is.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I ignored it because in the context of two wins in eleven games the blaming the ref route is a total cop out. You may disagree, as is your right, it just looks bad when the only people really backing you up are 5bellies and the Zebra from With.'"
2-11 is not acceptable.
Agreeing with what? The ref cost us the game - plenty seem to agree. That Agar needs replacing - plenty agree with that.
So what exactly are you saying?
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Yeh good point, last week's win at Quins really shut me up.
I said that beating them meant nothing and 5 days later so it has come to prove.
Only this time apparently 'it's the refs fault'
Seriously, as much as we disagree, debating Agar is old news now. FFS let's just focus on putting him in the dole que where he belongs.'"
Fair weather protestor. Fact.
You stay away from the board when we win. Fact.
All over it like a rash when we lose. Fact.
Don't go to games. Fact.
Opinion on said games is, duly dis-credited. Fact.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"2-11 is not acceptable.
Agreeing with that? The ref cost us the game - plenty seem to agree. That Agar needs replacing - plenty agree with that.
So what exactly are you saying?'"
I'm saying that regardless of the ref's influence, given our recent results, losing tonight was unacceptable.
Agar has backed himself into such a corner than the old 'bad deal from the ref' excuse really shouldn't wash with anyone, whether it's valid or not.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"
Seriously, as much as we disagree, debating Agar is old news now. FFS let's just focus on putting him in the dole que where he belongs.'"
Your better than that Gazza.
You've gotta wise up a bit kiddo.
That kind of terminology could do great damage to your 'unite' strategy.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"2-11 is not acceptable.
Agreeing with what? The ref cost us the game - plenty seem to agree. That Agar needs replacing - plenty agree with that.
So what exactly are you saying?'"
Why do you even entertain the troll? Just because he uses proper grammar and can spell doesn't make him less of one. He's what I like to call the "anti-EXPRO".
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| Quote ="garry brindley"I'm saying that regardless of the ref's influence, given our recent results, losing tonight was unacceptable.
Agar has backed himself into such a corner than the old 'bad deal from the ref' excuse really shouldn't wash with anyone, whether it's valid or not.'"
But it was acceptable tonight, had you been at the game you would have found it hard to disagree (not a dig btw).
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Fair weather protestor. Fact.
You stay away from the board when we win. Fact.
All over it like a rash when we lose. Fact.
Don't go to games. Fact.
Opinion on said games is, duly dis-credited. Fact.'"
Mate you say all that like you mean it?
You're an intelligent bloke unlike most on here, and resorting to that line of argument shows you know you're beaten.
Jimmy5 bellies goes to every game under the sun, is his opinion really worth more than anyone that doesn't go?.. You really don't mean that.
As many say on here, 'give your head a bang'.
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| Quote ="withernsea zebra"Your better than that Gazza.
You've gotta wise up a bit kiddo.
That kind of terminology could do great damage to your 'unite' strategy.'"
Told to wise up by a guy from With.
Know when you're beat mate, I can't seriously believe you think you're winning this one.
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| He does have a point Garry, You were very quiet last week and do tend to go missing when we win. Yet when we lose you are one of the first to jump in.
Easy to be anti Agar on a forum, bout time you came out into the public eye. I am not afraid to air my views in public, so keyboard warrior is not a term people can use against me but you are the true definition of one at this present time.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"But it was acceptable tonight, had you been at the game you would have found it hard to disagree (not a dig btw).'"
Even if I accept that you're right on that. It's like the guy who's always late for work because he sleeps in, and then one day he's heading to work on time and his car genuinely breaks down... his excuse means nothing because it's not change from what happens anyway.
You must see that point?
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Told to wise up by a guy from With.
Know when you're beat mate, I can't seriously believe you think you're winning this one.'"
Wise up kiddo.
You've already made a t!t of yourself over the apologist quip, your in danger of going down the same route with the Withernsea one.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Why do you even entertain the troll? Just because he uses proper grammar and can spell doesn't make him less of one. He's what I like to call the "anti-EXPRO".'"
I entertain all mate. He does make some good points but then spoils it. I don't understand all this 'I can't believe you think you're winning'. It's childish and I don't understand what is to win.
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| Quote ="hullbg"He does have a point Garry, You were very quiet last week and do tend to go missing when we win. Yet when we lose you are one of the first to jump in.
Easy to be anti Agar on a forum, bout time you came out into the public eye. I am not afraid to air my views in public, so keyboard warrior is not a term people can use against me but you are the true definition of one at this present time.'"
Night-Night kiddo, sleep tight.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Even if I accept that you're right on that. It's like the guy who's always late for work because he sleeps in, and then one day he's heading to work on time and his car genuinely breaks down... his excuse means nothing because it's not change from what happens anyway.
You must see that point?'"
Point taken. Agar needs replacing I completely agree. However whilst he is in charge I will judge each match on it's merits.
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| Quote ="hullbg"He does have a point Garry, You were very quiet last week and do tend to go missing when we win. Yet when we lose you are one of the first to jump in.
Easy to be anti Agar on a forum, bout time you came out into the public eye. I am not afraid to air my views in public, so keyboard warrior is not a term people can use against me but you are the true definition of one at this present time.'"
I posted my views after the Quins game and even gave Agar a bit of praise. Many people were saying how they were sick of me, so what was the point in posting much during a week when those that were inclined to could simply point to a comeback win against Quins as a claim that I was wrong?
To be fair, after we beat Crusaders I kept posting and quickly realised I was flogging a dead horse, it's not my fault if those are the only two wins we've had since I joined the forum.
I admire you Paul (?) for your forthright views, and I post everything under my full name so I hardly see how I can be a 'keyboard warrior'. It's just unfortunate that because Withernsea Zebra lacks debating skills, he approaches everything in a semi-confrontational way, I have nothing to prove to anyone.
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| Quote ="garry brindley"Even if I accept that you're right on that. It's like the guy who's always late for work because he sleeps in, and then one day he's heading to work on time and his car genuinely breaks down... his excuse means nothing because it's not change from what happens anyway.
You must see that point?'"
That's a lousy analogy because in this instance everyone who went to the game could [isee[/i his car break down.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"I entertain all mate. He does make some good points but then spoils it. I don't understand all this 'I can't believe you think you're winning'. It's childish and I don't understand what is to win.'"
Come on Paul.
When you get a guy like the Zebra who is clearly a bit aggressive and is intent on disagreeing with you regardless, you have no choice but to deal with them that way.
I might say some harsh stuff to people but you'll struggle to find an insult from me like some that people on here throw around.
To say I'm just a troll really is ridiculous, I'm touched you think I make some good points though xx
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| Both sides of this argument have merit, but both are too reactionary at the moment to be balanced. The facts are that Agar does have to go for us to fulfill our potential, but tonight's performance was the most promising in weeks, despite the result. We played expansive rugby and alot of training ground moves came off. Also most individual performances were pretty good. Most of our problems are historical, eg losing good players and replacing them with average players, but tonight was the first sign of promise I've seen for a while. This said, even with a poor referee, we should be beating Cas at home.
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