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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not really, didn't all clubs agree to the quota rules?
The rules have to be self governed as they won't stand up in court.'"
That is correct the rfl can make the rules but they do not govern the law.
The meeting between the clubs and the rfl will have discussed that to reduce the quota by a certain amount was to benefit the english players and the england team going forward and agreed on by everyone but it always relied on the clubs buying into it and not looking for loopholes etc.
Guess the Oz mafia at KR is stronger then we could ever imagine.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Not really, didn't all clubs agree to the quota rules?
The rules have to be self governed as they won't stand up in court.'"
So, what is the special dispensation he's receiving?
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| Does this not mean then we could sign as many non fed as we want then??
WE could just pay yeah well we did agree to it but what you gonna do to stop it!!!.. the rfl MUST have a call in It then
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"So, what is the special dispensation he's receiving?'"
I'd guess that nh has told the rfl that if they don't grant Mason 'non fed' status after gaining a Tongan passport he'll see them in court.
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| Quote ="dundeeblackandwhite"Does this not mean then we could sign as many non fed as we want then??
WE could just pay yeah well we did agree to it but what you gonna do to stop it!!!.. the rfl MUST have a call in It then'"
Its a legal minefield for the RFL.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"I'd guess that nh has told the rfl that if they don't grant Mason 'non fed' status after gaining a Tongan passport he'll see them in court.'"
Do you really think that Hudgell would do that given that the RFL would only have to wait a couple of months to get back at him by revoking our license?
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Do you really think that Hudgell would do that given that the RFL would only have to wait a couple of months to get back at him by revoking our license?'"
Why then do you think that he has once again found 'special dispensation'? The RFL and clubs agreed way back in the day that the way forward was to reduce the number of overseas players playing in SL to both help the Enlgish players develop and the England national team become stronger?
We both know that the law can change the above but surely every club bought into the idea?
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| Yep.
Nh will be confident hkr have a very sound bid and if they lose their license nh will probably, you guessed it, see them in court.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Yep.
Nh will be confident hkr have a very sound bid and if they lose their license nh will probably, you guessed it, see them in court.'"
Absolutely.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Why then do you think that he has once again found 'special dispensation'? The RFL and clubs agreed way back in the day that the way forward was to reduce the number of overseas players playing in SL to both help the Enlgish players develop and the England national team become stronger?
We both know that the law can change the above but surely every club bought into the idea?'"
Dont forget that at the minute there has been no official confirmation of this by Rovers or the RFL. If Rovers do get Mason off quota then im sure you guys could get Manu and Berrigan dispensation also. But for the good of the English game you wont bother. Oh, hang on...............
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Dont forget that at the minute there has been no official confirmation of this by Rovers or the RFL. If Rovers do get Mason off quota then im sure you guys could get Manu and Berrigan dispensation also. But for the good of the English game you wont bother. Oh, hang on...............'"
Is it 11 or 12? I have lost count...
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Dont forget that at the minute there has been no official confirmation of this by Rovers or the RFL. If Rovers do get Mason off quota then im sure you guys could get Manu and Berrigan dispensation also. But for the good of the English game you wont bother. Oh, hang on...............'"
Residency rule is different.
But that's irrelevant.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"Is it 11 or 12? I have lost count...'"
Your Derby defeats since we got promoted....?
Think it will hit 11 this season yes.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"Your Derby defeats since we got promoted....?
Think it will hit 11 this season yes.
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If you don't want to debate it properly leave the thread.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"
Think it will hit 11 this season yes.
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Well it certainly aint 10k plus crowds at CP now is it!
Sorry for derailing.
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| are rovers trying to beat the hull fc record of 16 overseas players in one season. ?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"Residency rule is different.
But that's irrelevant.'"
You are correct it is irrelevent. It is just another way of getting round the rules. Everybody does it.
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| Quote ="R.B.A"You are correct it is irrelevent. It is just another way of getting round the rules. Everybody does it.'"
That's ok then.
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| Quote ="looking in"are rovers trying to beat the hull fc record of 16 overseas players in one season. ?'"
And the trolls enter.
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| Quote ="R.B.A" It is just another way of getting round the rules.'"
In all seriousness doesnt that sum up the problem?
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| Quote ="knocker norton"In all seriousness doesnt that sum up the problem?'"
It sums up the situation but not the international problem. Britains lowest ebb internationally came when Aussie imports were banned in our game. When the ban was lifted and more Aussies came over as the 80s went on we got closer and closer their national side. As their number has decreased in our game our national side has drifted further away from theirs. Why is that then?
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| We haven't got the money to sign the best union players anymore.
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| Quote ="R.B.A" Why is that then?'"
Every Brit in RL is scratching their heads trying to figure that one out mate but I really cant see how getting players off quota will help matters!
Young English players at KR must groan at the fact another overseas player will probably come in on the back of this rule dodge.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"We haven't got the money to sign the best union players anymore.'"
That is a bigger factor than people give credit for. It isnt so much the money issue (although Union is awash with it now) as the fact that Union players are given Non-fed status now in our game.
I would give them Fed or even home grown status and some dispensation as far as their salary goes on the Cap.
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| Quote ="Sheldon"We haven't got the money to sign the best union players anymore.'"
Thats a very good point the traffic does seem to be one way knowadays...any wonder looking at the state of the respective national games?
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