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| Quote ="wolfie"Thats what people do best mate.'"
Have to agree Wolfie.
If an appointment of player or coach goes tits up fair enough.At least though lets give the poor sods a chance before we start slating them.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Dreary me lets at least give the bloke a chance before we start slagging him and the board off. Everyone was in favour of bringing Dennis in, presumably on a fair whack of cash, and that hasn't really worked out so lets see how we go before taking unwarranted potshots about this particular topic.'"
I don't think anyone is criticising Webster as an individual, just the shambolic situation, we sign him, he plays one game, is deemed surplous to requirements, we get an assistant in, initial signs are good, something happens, performances drop (long before the increased injury situation), assistan leaves "for personal reasons" (but not that personal that he doesn't go on holiday first), we then bring back someone who, previously, was not in the clubs plans.
I think people are just annoyed at what, from the outside, looks like another cheap option.
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| Quote ="Standee"I don't think anyone is criticising Webster as an individual, just the shambolic situation, we sign him, he plays one game, is deemed surplous to requirements, we get an assistant in, initial signs are good, something happens, performances drop (long before the increased injury situation), assistan leaves "for personal reasons" (but not that personal that he doesn't go on holiday first), we then bring back someone who, previously, was not in the clubs plans.
I think people are just annoyed at what, from the outside, looks like another cheap option.'"
The whole situation with Webster when we signed him as a player was a complete joke I agree. I'm not sure how bringing him as an assistant coach now is a cheap option though. What other clubs in SL have an expensive assistant coach? I think people are more annoyed at the continued presence of Agar and that is clouding peoples judgement over this appointment. If we had a top class head coach in place the appointment of Webster would probably be welcomed.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"Dreary me lets at least give the bloke a chance before we start slagging him and the board off. Everyone was in favour of bringing Dennis in, presumably on a fair whack of cash, and that hasn't really worked out so lets see how we go before taking unwarranted potshots about this particular topic.'"
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| I wish Webster all the best and hope he does well, but I imagine he got the gig on how many times he is happy to say "yes boss" or "I agree boss" rather than his coaching ability.
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| Quote ="Robbo4"The whole situation with Webster when we signed him as a player was a complete joke I agree. I'm not sure how bringing him as an assistant coach now is a cheap option though. What other clubs in SL have an expensive assistant coach? I think people are more annoyed at the continued presence of Agar and that is clouding peoples judgement over this appointment. If we had a top class head coach in place the appointment of Webster would probably be welcomed.'"
You could well have a point, I can just see season pass numbers dropping off quite a bit next year, a potential VAT rise is going to increase the cost of passes and getting to and from games as it is, without something to attract fans (and lets face it, 5 drives and a kick isn't going to cut it) then FC are competing for an ever decreasingly available £ from peoples pocket.
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| Quote ="Standee"You could well have a point, I can just see season pass numbers dropping off quite a bit next year, a potential VAT rise is going to increase the cost of passes and getting to and from games as it is, without something to attract fans (and lets face it, 5 drives and a kick isn't going to cut it) then FC are competing for an ever decreasingly available £ from peoples pocket.'"
I agree but I dont think any assistant coach was ever going to help with that situation. Its the man at the top that is the problem. Who knows we may turn it around and have a really good second half of the season, not holding my breath though.
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| Huddersfield - paul anderson
wigan - paul deacon
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4 assistant coaches of the top of my head who could be described as "cheap options"
In reality no club is gonna bust the bank for an assistant so for us to sign a very promising young coach who's already based in the city is a good move imo.
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| Quote ="Standee"I can imagine the thinking a few weeks ago....
Agar is not cutting it, but the fans will expect Dennis to get it, hmmm, lets get rid of Dennis, bring someone cheaper than Agar in, keep Long as a pseudo assistant for another year, laughing all the way to the bank........'"
He didn't come off Hessle Road ..What gone wrong .. I am GUTTED ,,was expecting a call
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| Quote ="chico's nose"I wish Webster all the best and hope he does well, but I imagine he got the gig on how many times he is happy to say "yes boss" or "I agree boss" rather than his coaching ability.'"
I realise that some people think it's cool to try and out-cynic each other, but FFS.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I realise that some people think it's cool to try and out-cynic each other, but FFS.
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Beat me to it
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Huddersfield - paul anderson
wigan - paul deacon
leeds - francis cummins
wire - james lowes
4 assistant coaches of the top of my head who could be described as "cheap options"
In reality no club is gonna bust the bank for an assistant so for us to sign a very promising young coach who's already based in the city is a good move imo.'"
Now list next to them the head coaches and you will realise that the assistants don't need a great deal of experience. Our coaching set-up is cheap as a whole not just in regard to the assistant
When Wire realised that James Lowes couldn't cut it they went out and paid good money for a top coach. Agar and Webster is a combination similar to Lowes and Webster because Agar is an assistant at best and needs replacing with a Top Coach which this club should have based on its revenue
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| Agar has a lot more first grade experience as a coach than Mcguire of Wigan.
I know which coach I would rather have.
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| Quote ="Willa"Now list next to them the head coaches and you will realise that the assistants don't need a great deal of experience. Our coaching set-up is cheap as a whole not just in regard to the assistant
When Wire realised that James Lowes couldn't cut it they went out and paid good money for a top coach. Agar and Webster is a combination similar to Lowes and Webster because Agar is an assistant at best and needs replacing with a Top Coach which this club should have based on its revenue'"
I agree with you but my point was that No club pays big money for assistant coaches
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| Quote ="chico's nose"I wish Webster all the best and hope he does well, but I imagine he got the gig on how many times he is happy to say "yes boss" or "I agree boss" rather than his coaching ability.'"
The last thing I think he is ,is a "yes" man.
And if thats all Agar wants,whats the point of an assistant?
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| Quote ="barton baird"The last thing I think he is ,is a "yes" man.
And :c7kiiv78if thats all Agar wants,whats the point of an assistant?[/
Who knows, but 2 assistant coaches have left the club after very short periods of time. Seems to me Agar would be very happy with a yes man, but I may be wrong.
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| Is he a cheap option? He's 30 years old, not injury plagued in any way, yet you've managed to persuade him to end his playing career to become an assistant coach. Sounds to me like you've put quite an attractive package together for him.
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| Quote ="reddan"Is he a cheap option? He's 30 years old, not injury plagued in any way, yet you've managed to persuade him to end his playing career to become an assistant coach. Sounds to me like you've put quite an attractive package together for him.'"
Not like he will have been on great money at Widnes. At the end of the day i bet he is a cheaper option than Moore was.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Not like he will have been on great money at Widnes. At the end of the day i bet he is a cheaper option than Moore was.'"
I'm not convinced. Always knew he'd go into coaching, he did the business when he temporarily took over the reigns at Rovers, but very surprised he's wrapped playing in already to do it. A player's career is short at best, it'd take a bloody good offer to tempt me to give it up at 30.
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| Quote ="reddan"I'm not convinced. Always knew he'd go into coaching, he did the business when he temporarily took over the reigns at Rovers, but very surprised he's wrapped playing in already to do it. A player's career is short at best, it'd take a bloody good offer to tempt me to give it up at 30.'"
He may have realised his best days are past him and he would rather be coaching for similar money rather than getting knocked about on the pitch. He may also have realised that Agar is on shaky ground and with our history he may just get a shot at the top job soon enough
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| Quote ="El Chupacabra"Going by the fact that West Hull & Hessle had the lowest turn out of anywhere at the election, Rule was probably not expecting you to make the effort to pick up the phone anyway.'"
That funny I voted for K Turner ..East Hull .."It say Ex Bean Street Lad"Hessle Road I live in the Posh area of East Hull ( Lambwath Road )
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| Good to see Webster out there on the pitch for the warm up
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