No change there then. Rugby League's No.1 fashion victim!!!

Thought Puletua had a good game for saints so not sure about Graham being the only one "carrying" the pack imho of course.

Cunningham and Roby were poor

he looked like a rasta man today

You clearly don't know me if thats what you think.

The point is it doesn't matter how good your SH is if your forwards don't dominate.

See above numpty

Actually they don't need to dominate, they just need not to be dominated.

If the forwards are evenly matched then the halves make the difference IMO.

Maybe.

But my point stands that Long wouldn't have made that much difference yesterday. He would have also been a spot in defence.

I don't disagree. He might have made the result a little tighter as I thought that Eastmond made a few wrong decisions due to inexperience, but I doubt he'd have turned defeat into victory.

Sorry i thought you were jumping on the 'GG is Dobbin' Bandwagon

Nah - just indulging my love of pedantry.

The thing is if long had played and not made a difference potter would have been slated for rushing him back, it was a no win situation. Hudds were the better side and fully deserved it.

Just as an aside, does anyone else think that besides looking a complete state and as if he'd just been found sleeping in hammonds doorway his choice of bandana was totally inappropriate for a sportsman to wear and shows a lack of proffessionalism.

Considering the amount of possession Saints had near the Hudds line, IMO i think he would have made a difference, his kicking game for a start, i also think Pryce is not the same player without Long!!! glad Hudds won though!!

Saying 1 person wouldn't change a game is stupid, he could of thrown 5 try scoring passes, ran the length of the pitch 5 times, or be steamrolled over for 5 trys to Hudds, you'll never know and there's no real point in even bringing it up.

I take your point about the forwards but Saints kicking games yesterday was poor and Long could have made a difference there. Also there were lots of periods where Saints had the ball and could not score, Long could have also made a difference there too. We will never know now.

If that's the only "unprofessionalism" he is guilty of, then he'll do for me!

true, you'll never see longy betting on his own team to lose or have a screaming hissy fit at his coach and storm out of the squad........

.....oh wait a minute......

I meant, if that is as unprofessional as he gets at Hull then I'll be happy, would love to see a young player coming through the ranks to learn from him.

He can sit with his ku klux klan gear on and his cock out for all I care as long as he's winning us games.

yes fair point but can you seperate a players qualities from a man's personality. Whilst it'd be great to learn the art of playing scrum half off someone like longy you'd have to chaperone him everywhere to make sure your young lads weren't picking up his bad habits.

taking it a bit far, I think!

if it's good enough for Kath......

That's part of Long's role, one reason why he was tempted with the move to Hull.

Which players is he going to be bringing on, I haven't seen the academy (or whatever they are called) for some time.

There is one young lad called Williams who is playing 7 in the same team as Lynn and Briscoe, so I would imagine he will be working with him at least.