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| Quote ="denbo63"Course there is...That's why in the next 10 years we'll need 3 cities the size of Birmingham to be built. FACT
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If that's a 'FACT' you'll be able to substantiate it with some evidence.
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| There are some very thick, insular racists on this thread, similar to the BNP thread on Sin Bin.
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| My I introduce Lance Corporal Johnson Gideon Beharry VC, born in Greneda
As of 23 September 2006, as a result of his injuries, he still has severe pain in his back and head. He is on the Army payroll but has been unable to return to duty.[5
The faces of some of the service men who have made the supreme sacrifice fighting in Afganistan
I see only brave men there others may like to point out those they would like to deport from this country. B
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| Quote ="denbo63"Leicester? 1st city in the country that has a Muslim Majority? Birmingham and Bradford both close? That do you?'"
Please could you confirm your source of information regarding the 'Muslim majority'
Having taken the time to look into this 'fact' it would appear that the Religious beakdown for Leicetser is
Christian 44.7% 72.0% 71.7%
No religion 17.4% 15.2% 14.6%
Hindu 14.7% 1.6% 1.1%
Muslim 11.0% 1.7% 3.1%
Not sure but that doesn't appear to a majority.
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| Look, let's face facts.
Voting BNP is not a protest vote, no matter how you want to dress it up, it is a vote for a group of people who have spent their entire existence as racists.
If you vote for the BNP you are the same as them, you are racist scum.
You can try and kid yourself that you (and they) might be racist scum in a party frock but at the end of the day, you are still racist scum.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Look, let's face facts.
Voting BNP is not a protest vote, no matter how you want to dress it up, it is a vote for a group of people who have spent their entire existence as racists.
If you vote for the BNP you are the same as them, you are racist scum.
You can try and kid yourself that you (and they) might be racist scum in a party frock but at the end of the day, you are still racist scum.'"
You started by sayin [i'Look, let's face facts'[/i and then you proceeded to state an opinion and indeed one that has absolutely NO basis in FACT.
Using the term [i'racist scum' [/idoes your argument no good at all.
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| Quote ="Ian P"My I introduce Lance Corporal Johnson Gideon Beharry VC, born in Greneda
As of 23 September 2006, as a result of his injuries, he still has severe pain in his back and head. He is on the Army payroll but has been unable to return to duty.[5
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A very brave man as any right minded person would agree.
Not the BNP then:
Quote In its website the BNP declared that Lance Corporal Beharry was an “immigrant” who had benefited from “ positive discrimination by a PC mad government”. What he had done was nothing more than “routine” said the message , continuing "All he did was drive away very fast from a combat zone. . . to safety, as have hundreds and hundreds of other British soldiers." '"
[url=http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/griffin-branded-despicable-for-attacks-on-army-top-brass-1806257.htmlThe Independent[/url.
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"You started by sayin [i'Look, let's face facts'[/i and then you proceeded to state an opinion and indeed one that has absolutely NO basis in FACT.
Using the term [i'racist scum' [/idoes your argument no good at all.'"
Would a racist be classed as anything other than scum?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Would a racist be classed as anything other than scum?'"
I take it the same applies to muslims who protested against the armed forces in Luton? If so im with you brother.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"If you bothered to venture outside, you'd see there's acres of space to fit people in.
Come out of the closet, admit what you are FFS'"
Oh my God you really are on another planet aren't you. When people say that the country doesn't have the space this isn't meant as literally. This country struggles as it is providing services for the current population ie NHS, education, infrastructure etc. If we just keep accepting more foreigners the situation is just going to get worse.
I'm not rascist in the slightest and feel it is good to have a multi-cultural society. However the UK must now put the "full" signs up and stop letting every man and his dog come and abuse our system even more than it is already. There needs to be a strict regime on entry and only qualified people who will provide a service to this country and contribute should be allowed to come and live here, much like Australia. We already have enough dole scroungers of our own who bleed our money dry without having to shell out for more unskilled foreign nationals.
Also I don't blame most of the immigrants either, I'd do the same if I were in their shoes, stay in a country were you get nothing or come and be supported in the UK for doing nothing. It the governments fault for giving them the incentive to come here by offering such good benefits.
Also somebody mentioned earlier that they don't really get much, so why do the all want to come to the UK rather than another EU country? Isn't the law on asylum you must apply for it at the first safe country you enter? So why do they all travel so much further to get here???
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"Oh my God you really are on another planet aren't you. When people say that the country doesn't have the space this isn't meant as literally. This country struggles as it is providing services for the current population ie NHS, education, infrastructure etc. If we just keep accepting more foreigners the situation is just going to get worse.
I'm not rascist in the slightest and feel it is good to have a multi-cultural society. However the UK must now put the "full" signs up and stop letting every man and his dog come and abuse our system even more than it is already. There needs to be a strict regime on entry and only qualified people who will provide a service to this country and contribute should be allowed to come and live here, much like Australia. We already have enough dole scroungers of our own who bleed our money dry without having to shell out for more unskilled foreign nationals.
Also I don't blame most of the immigrants either, I'd do the same if I were in their shoes, stay in a country were you get nothing or come and be supported in the UK for doing nothing. It the governments fault for giving them the incentive to come here by offering such good benefits.
Also somebody mentioned earlier that they don't really get much, so why do the all want to come to the UK rather than another EU country? Isn't the law on asylum you must apply for it at the first safe country you enter? So why do they all travel so much further to get here???'"
You are aware that more people have been leaving than arriving aren't you?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Would a racist be classed as anything other than scum?'"
Yeah scummy b@st@rd !!!
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| Quote ="cod'ead"You are aware that more people have been leaving than arriving aren't you?'"
Yep Brits leaving, east euros arriving. Your point is?
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| Quote ="cod'ead"You are aware that more people have been leaving than arriving aren't you?'" Yes, the recession is a bitch!
When the 5 poles that worked for us got laid off due to cut backs caused by the economic downturn they said "we'll go home until it picks up again". But at least they didn't stay and claim benefit, like the other 7 foreign nationals did!
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Yep Brits leaving, east euros arriving. Your point is?'"
Are we being swamped with people or is it just the flavour of people you don't like?
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| I think many people would support no more immigrants policy, trouble is what they really mean has a colour or relgious agenda to it.
No more immigrants would mean ...................
No more Australian/NZ/ PNG/TONGA imports and those here to be sent back. So Orge and Fitz can stay where they are then ?
and the 3 tongans back to Tonga as well ?
or are they different, even if we are full we are full
We do have room and if people actually looked a little deeper into the problem would see we have a falling working population. Without boosting opur population in the next 10 - 20 years we will be short of bodies for work and paying for services mainly due to baby boomers retiring. Too many people read and belive what the BNP and newspapers tell them because it diverts attention.
Being British mean you have mixed blood anyway, we a fusion of every race we have come into contact with. So don't start proclaiming Britain for the British because every one of us is a bloody mongrel. Once we start going down the BNP road be prepared to start sorting out anyone who does not fit in with the norm. Blacks, muslins and then the Jews starts to take on a familar pattern, how about gassing the mentally ill, disbabled oh yes and catholics.
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"Yes, the recession is a bitch!
When the 5 poles that worked for us got laid off due to cut backs caused by the economic downturn they said "we'll go home until it picks up again". But at least they didn't stay and claim benefit, like the other 7 foreign nationals did!'"
Nationals from where?
How long had they been here?
Did they qualify for benefits?
Are you aware of the benefit system?
Are you just bitter and twisted?
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"Yep Brits leaving, east euros arriving. Your point is?'"
Ah that gives it away
Surely we are all Europeans now............................
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| Quote ="blakeysrobin"I take it the same applies to muslims who protested against the armed forces in Luton? If so im with you brother.'"
What he said.
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| Quote ="cod'ead"Are we being swamped with people or is it just the flavour of people you don't like?'" What kind of crusade are you on? I welcome anyone to these isles who is willing to contribute to our society, there is no denying that with our open door policy we leave ourselves open to people coming in spreading their hatred towards the west. We have enough of our own like Griffin without letting other countries nutters in!
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| Quote ="Ian P"I think many people would support no more immigrants policy, trouble is what they really mean has a colour or relgious agenda to it.
No more immigrants would mean ...................
No more Australian/NZ/ PNG/TONGA imports and those here to be sent back. So Orge and Fitz can stay where they are then ?
and the 3 tongans back to Tonga as well ?
or are they different, even if we are full we are full
We do have room and if people actually looked a little deeper into the problem would see we have a falling working population. Without boosting opur population in the next 10 - 20 years we will be short of bodies for work and paying for services mainly due to baby boomers retiring. Too many people read and belive what the BNP and newspapers tell them because it diverts attention.
Being British mean you have mixed blood anyway, we a fusion of every race we have come into contact with. So don't start proclaiming Britain for the British because every one of us is a bloody mongrel. Once we start going down the BNP road be prepared to start sorting out anyone who does not fit in with the norm. Blacks, muslins and then the Jews starts to take on a familar pattern, how about gassing the mentally ill, disbabled oh yes and catholics.'" Why not have all people vetted as much as these nations seem to be?
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| Quote ="east hull FC fan"What kind of crusade are you on? I welcome anyone to these isles who is willing to contribute to our society, there is no denying that with our open door policy we leave ourselves open to people coming in spreading their hatred towards the west. We have enough of our own like Griffin without letting other countries nutters in!'"
Completely agree, cod'ead seems to be completely blinkered. I feel he's just one of these PC people who have completely ruined this country. All this bravado about racism, pathetic. It has nothing top do with racism, it's about managing a country effectively which the current government are hopelessly failing at.
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"Completely agree, cod'ead seems to be completely blinkered. I feel he's just one of these PC people who have completely ruined this country. All this bravado about racism, pathetic. It has nothing top do with racism, it's about managing a country effectively which the current government are hopelessly failing at.'"
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| Quote ="Eric The Viking"Completely agree, cod'ead seems to be completely blinkered. I feel he's just one of these PC people who have completely ruined this country. All this bravado about racism, pathetic. It has nothing top do with racism, it's about managing a country effectively which the current government are hopelessly failing at.'" I don't think our country is ruined.
We need to have more control over who is coming into this country, if only to protect those of us already in it!
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| Quote ="Gordon Gekko"What he said.'"
Thats what happens in democracies
We tolerate differing opinions, we are British and as such we are programmed to fair and even handed. We choose to play the game within the rules regardless, despite everyone else ripping the rule book up.
We have a long record of standing up to dictators and the underdogs of the world. Supporting a just cause like the Ghurka's being allowed to settle here after years of service in our Army. Many Ghurka's are Muslin and many other muslins serve in our armed forces.
The extremists of both sides do them selves or this country any credit.
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