On the assumption he his going who does everybody think will replace him?

Washbrook.

Thompson.

Abdull.

Extra Prop.

As someone has already mentioned I think we were bit hasty giving Michaels a one year deal. In hindsight we could have combined his salary and Westerman's and sign a quality NRL back and still have Westermans transfer fee(hopefully) to bank.

Could be Minichiello as well... I reckon Radford will look for a player with high defensive attributes to block up the middle.

For mine,Washbrook..

Mini
Pritchard
Manu

would be my back three.

Washbrook would be on the bench to do a 20m minute spell in the backrow and at hooker.

shame to see him go but that's sport it happens at most clubs,in fairness to pearson imo we have signed top class players this year,you only have to look elseware like rovers to see that,

"I like x player, he's one of our better players, should be playing international rugby"

We just sold him


"Well he was s--t anyway, glad he's gone tbh"

He was good last year (In an appalling side) and just about deserved his England spot, but overall in his time at Hull, he has been disappointing, two average season and two better ones. He certainly hasn't been outstanding, he doesn't score trys or sets them up, rarely makes a break either, he works hard and has good defence, but in his time as Hull, that's about it, I've seen more from Abdul (Who isn't ready to play LF full time) last season that I saw from Westerman last year.

So do we keep him for another year, hoping he will finally come good after 4 years and then let him go for free or do we sell him for a large fee and let players play LF who will do a more effective job for the club.

You must watch our games blindfolded

how dare you

Says in RL Media he was signing a 3 year deal with us but then got poached by Warrington who he has opted for, we probably haven't heard anything because a deal has not yet been sorted for the fee.

And yet both Wire and Leeds were after him, with Wire apparently winning out.

Not bad for a 'bang average' player. Still - neither of their coaches knows as much about players as some of our fans, eh?

people make me laugh on here, half the contributors on this forum slag westy off week in week out saying it was 150k wasted

now we look to be selling him, people, some who criticised his signing too i bet are having a go at adam pearson for selling

now im a fan of westerman, i will be disappointed to see him go, but sport is a buisness and atm we are not doing great financial wise, blame pearson, blame the fans for not renewing passes, ateod our clubs survival is the main priority, whether that is pass sales or selling players

so did wire have permission to approach westerman before he was offered the 3 year deal?

if he had a year remaining on his contract andwe offered him another, surely Adam wont have allowed another club to offer a contract?

Maybe they think they can turn him into a great player, we haven't over ther past 4 years for whatever reason and aren't in the position due lack of success to wait and find out. Leeds were after Houghton, who a lot of fans think isn't good enough. Just because these are so called top clubs doesn't mean they always sign the right players or don't make mistakes when it comes to recruitment, look at Lauaki who signed a 4 year deal with Wigan.

Maybe he will prove me and others wrong, but he will have to improve his attacking game massively and become more consistent. I honestly think they are signing him on reputation only.

Not a criticism Dave, but I see this comment a lot about some of our emerging players. At what point do they become ready?

I would have thought that having being drip fed into the team then given a decent run of matches at the end where it was not win at all costs was the ideal preparation to train the house down in the off season and come back demanding a position in the starting line up.

Really looking forward to seeing Adam explain this one away.

And, if the intention was to keep Westerman all along, presumably the club now has a hefty chunk of salary cap to play with, not to mention a six-figure transfer fee!

Anyone else not totally convinced?

In a salary cap sport I guess we should be asking does his salary reflect what he gives us on the pitch? I'd suggest baring 1 season he has been poor value for money. I'd be very disappointed if we signed him on a longer and improved contract

This is why I mentioned those who are over analysing this situation. Why the big interest in how the owner is going to explain this? What exactly are you not convinced about?

I was under the impression that we were supposed to support the club, not look for ways to attack it

Probably.


Wrong.


Correct.


You think two top coaches haven't bothered to look past his reputation?

Not hard to explain really, is it?
Pearson says he made an extension offer to Westerman who said No, and I'm leaving at end of current contract. Another club makes an offer which in the circumstances is too good to refuse. Pearson accepts.
Where's the drama? Things change. IF, he's gone, we move on without him, but with, potentially, a very good squad.

Couldn't agree more the guy may have been promised a very good improved deal at wire if he signs or just wants a fresh challenge and has told the club this you can not blame the club for cashing in and his form in my opinion has been very inconsistent its not like where short of very good back row forwards or good young kids knocking on the door good bit of business if its true and he's away hope this gives us cap space to improve in other vital areas

Just needs to improve his fitness and defence in order to play at LF. We have lots of people to play there, so there is no rush.

I'd have Logan starting next season at centre though.

If you are going to argue a point, you can't just put wrong can you?

Name me examples of this attacking play this season?

On reputation, I was talking more about his ability as a youngster, which he hasn't fulfilled rather than off the field.

I dont think we could afford to keep Westerman anyway given who we've brought in and AP probably needed to offload him.
. I also read that we got more like 50k for him, considering Leeds were reported as not wanting to cough a fee (maybe player exchange?) It wouldn't surprise me.
I honestly can't see us getting £100k never mind £150k given how he performed this season gone, not that it was bad just not good enough to justify aa huge fee for a player with only one year on his contract left.

This is the crux of the issue.

Has Adam strung everyone along, knowing Joe was always going?

Why has he strung people along??

This is the bit your are not explaining.

As has been mentioned, circumstances change and we are loaded up in the forwards. We play in a salary capped sport, something has to give. We have no idea as to when Warringtons interest became a genuine bid. For all we know this could have been 3 months ago or 2 weeks ago.

ATEOTD, it really doesn't matter. If you base a decision whether to attend or not based on what the owner comes out with then that puts you in a fairly unique position.

Leeds agreed terms with Westerman but wouldn't agree to £150k transfer fee Hull were demanding. Leeds were hoping Hull would lower their fee but in meantime Warrington agreed to meet your £150k transfer fee valuation so that's where he's ended up. Leeds wanted Westerman for some reason (I can't work out why) but not at the price Hull were demanding.