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| Quote ="bonaire"So Mr Wiz has suddenly become a Philosopher
If only Carling made brains'"
Not sure why you are moaning anyway.
Most supporters probably predicted 5th/6th so we are on par, albeit it's highly frustrating given the wasted chance to finish second.
You, on the other hand, said we were 'likely' to finish in the bottom four. You should be reasonably pleased at us over achieving your somewhat gloomy prediction.
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| Quote ="bonaire"So Mr Wiz has suddenly become a Philosopher
If only Carling made brains'"
If I had to tangle with the likes of Mrs Barista or Mild Rover then I may be treading into deep waters.
But you, seriously?
Stick to the paddling pool mate.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"Not sure why you are moaning anyway.
Most supporters probably predicted 5th/6th so we are on par, albeit it's highly frustrating given the wasted chance to finish second.
You, on the other hand, said we were 'likely' to finish in the bottom four. You should be reasonably pleased at us over achieving your somewhat gloomy prediction.'"
Send me the post where i said we were likely to finish in the bottom four.Dont remember saying that.
I did say we wouldnt finish in the bottom four but not much better.
Given we are likely to finish sixth ,two places above the bottom four then that prediction is reasonable
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Quote ="bonaire"Send me the post where i said we were likely to finish in the bottom four.Dont remember saying that.
I did say we wouldnt finish in the bottom four but not much better.
Given we are likely to finish sixth ,two places above the bottom four then that prediction is reasonable'"
Quote ="bonaire"Cant see us being relegated but bottom four is quite likely'"
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Quote ="bonaire"Send me the post where i said we were likely to finish in the bottom four.Dont remember saying that.
I did say we wouldnt finish in the bottom four but not much better.
Given we are likely to finish sixth ,two places above the bottom four then that prediction is reasonable'"
Quote ="bonaire"Cant see us being relegated but bottom four is quite likely'"
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"https://viewtopic.php?f=34&t=621329&p=18857214#p18857145'"
Think he's probably gone for an early night, bless.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"https://viewtopic.php?f=34&t=621329&p=18857214#p18857145'"
oops
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Think he's probably gone for an early night, bless.
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No still here Mr Wiz but your are just too easy to manipulate which means you are not the brightest of the bunch
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| Regardless, we’ve been awful last 2 seasons, played awful rugby for the majority of radfords tenure, with the squad we’ve got for next season, I personally would like to see a new coach brought in, just my opinion of course. But the reality is Radfords going nowhere and I’ll be 100% behind them come the start of next season
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"https://viewtopic.php?f=34&t=621329&p=18857214#p18857145'"
Ok my mistake
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| Quote ="bonaire"Ok my mistake'"
Keep digging and if you find Bumpy down there say hello to him from me.
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| Quote ="MorningGlory23"Regardless, we’ve been awful last 2 seasons, played awful rugby for the majority of radfords tenure, with the squad we’ve got for next season, I personally would like to see a new coach brought in, just my opinion of course. But the reality is Radfords going nowhere and I’ll be 100% behind them come the start of next season'"
Regretfully i agree but what on field changes will we see in the coaching?
I agree we have on paper some better players coming in but will we see a change to the predictable five drives and a kick,lack of player movement,poor and slow passing, and a line so deep its easy to defend.
I doubt It.
Alternatively if the answer is yes and we do see changes then you have to ask why havnt we seen any improvements for the last two seasons.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Keep digging and if you find Bumpy down there say hello to him from me.
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Ill rest my case Mr Wiz
Too easy to manipulate
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| Quote ="bonaire"Regretfully i agree but what on field changes will we see in the coaching?
I agree we have on paper some better players coming in but will we see a change to the predictable five drives and a kick,lack of player movement,poor and slow passing, and a line so deep its easy to defend.
I doubt It.
Alternatively if the answer is yes and we do see changes then you have to ask why havnt we seen any improvements for the last two seasons.'"
Difference the new players will make, is we’ll get slightly better hammering’s, unless radford can change our tactics and structures, not much which will change, consistency and attitude are hard to coach I guess, but the better coaches manage it. Radford had his apprenticeship at hull, done a fantastic job winning back to back cups, but heart on my hull fc sleeve, I know we need a new coach to move forward. Fair play wizeb backing is mate, I’d do the same if he was mine
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| Quote ="bonaire"Ill rest my case Mr Wiz
Too easy to manipulate'"
Jesus, you're really struggling now.
I'll leave you alone before Karen steps in and saves you from further punishment.
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| So LR says it’s hard to motivate the team for a season defining match
He’s also said it’s not really his fault and clueless as to how to fix it
You really have to ask
What does he do week to week ?
Said before
Name a stand after him and let him move on
He’s just reached the end of this project
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| Quote ="bonaire"Regretfully i agree but what on field changes will we see in the coaching?
I agree we have on paper some better players coming in but will we see a change to the predictable five drives and a kick,lack of player movement,poor and slow passing, and a line so deep its easy to defend.
I doubt It.
Alternatively if the answer is yes and we do see changes then you have to ask why havnt we seen any improvements for the last two seasons.'"
So, wither way, we can anticipate another season of you slating Radford.
Lose/Play poorly - Radford is at fault
Win/Play well - Wgy didn't Radford have us doing this last season?
Poor bloke can't do anything right in your opinion.
I'd like to see some attacking input, I think Horne, Last and Yeaman should be dispensed of and talent that has no prior association with FC brought in.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"So LR says it’s hard to motivate the team for a season defining match
He’s also said it’s not really his fault and clueless as to how to fix it
You really have to ask
What does he do week to week ?
Said before
Name a stand after him and let him move on
He’s just reached the end of this project'"
It does sound as though from that interview, he has lost Interest and is deflated of ideas.
He s been at the club a long time and everything has a shelf life.
Radford needs recognising for his achievements and give him a fitting send off. But I do think it is time Pearson Recruited a new head coach. For example looking back at Kieran Cunningham at saints, at the end of his tenure the players were uninterested, and deflated, and rarely had any consistensncy, those same players transformed over night and have been consistently good for the last 2 years. I don’t think Cunningham had lost the dressing room but more a case of boredom had set in, as I’m sure we all go through at some point in our own working lives.
Because KC had been a loyal long serving employee at the club, I think McManus probably kept him in the job for to long due to sentiment which we all know in sport is bad, I would say this is the same conundrum that Pearson has with Radford!
Players are often moved on to freshen up the squad and I think the same should be said for the coaching staff
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| Quote ="lingys"It does sound as though from that interview, he has lost Interest and is deflated of ideas.
He s been at the club a long time and everything has a shelf life.
Radford needs recognising for his achievements and give him a fitting send off. But I do think it is time Pearson Recruited a new head coach. For example looking back at Kieran Cunningham at saints, at the end of his tenure the players were uninterested, and deflated, and rarely had any consistensncy, those same players transformed over night and have been consistently good for the last 2 years. I don’t think Cunningham had lost the dressing room but more a case of boredom had set in, as I’m sure we all go through at some point in our own working lives.
Because KC had been a loyal long serving employee at the club, I think McManus probably kept him in the job for to long due to sentiment which we all know in sport is bad, I would say this is the same conundrum that Pearson has with Radford!
Players are often moved on to freshen up the squad and I think the same should be said for the coaching staff'"
Thats how i see it too
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| Quote ="lingys"It does sound as though from that interview, he has lost Interest and is deflated of ideas.
He s been at the club a long time and everything has a shelf life.
Radford needs recognising for his achievements and give him a fitting send off. But I do think it is time Pearson Recruited a new head coach. For example looking back at Kieran Cunningham at saints, at the end of his tenure the players were uninterested, and deflated, and rarely had any consistensncy, those same players transformed over night and have been consistently good for the last 2 years. I don’t think Cunningham had lost the dressing room but more a case of boredom had set in, as I’m sure we all go through at some point in our own working lives.
Because KC had been a loyal long serving employee at the club, I think McManus probably kept him in the job for to long due to sentiment which we all know in sport is bad, I would say this is the same conundrum that Pearson has with Radford!
Players are often moved on to freshen up the squad and I think the same should be said for the coaching staff'"
Great post.
Only problem with our owner, he thinks, IF the coach is not from Hull, 'they dont get it' ie
they cant quantify what the club means to its fans...
Also Pearson thinks Radford is the best thing 'since sliced bread' , IF we had a change of coach, he'd more than likely promote from within, with the existing backroom staff still in situ.,which in my opinion, wouldnt make any difference...
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| Quote ="lingys"It does sound as though from that interview, he has lost Interest and is deflated of ideas.
He s been at the club a long time and everything has a shelf life.
Radford needs recognising for his achievements and give him a fitting send off. But I do think it is time Pearson Recruited a new head coach. For example looking back at Kieran Cunningham at saints, at the end of his tenure the players were uninterested, and deflated, and rarely had any consistensncy, those same players transformed over night and have been consistently good for the last 2 years. I don’t think Cunningham had lost the dressing room but more a case of boredom had set in, as I’m sure we all go through at some point in our own working lives.
Because KC had been a loyal long serving employee at the club, I think McManus probably kept him in the job for to long due to sentiment which we all know in sport is bad, I would say this is the same conundrum that Pearson has with Radford!
Players are often moved on to freshen up the squad and I think the same should be said for the coaching staff'"
Nail on head for me and sums things up.
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| Quote ="Chris71"icon_thumb.gif Nail on head for me and sums things up.'"
I think that is the gemeral consensus!
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| For me, it is always the same line - if we get our spine and creative players on the pitch, we will be fine.
Well they were there on Friday and we were awful! Saints have had a different spine multiple times during the season, but because they have an ethos, and a way of playing and obviously train the same throughout the squad, any player can come into the side and their results haven't altered
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| Can't believe Leeds have appointed Agar as their permanent coach.
It's going to be interesting seeing how that pans out.
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| Quote ="Lang Park"Can't believe Leeds have appointed Agar as their permanent coach.
It's going to be interesting seeing how that pans out.'"
Very surprised shane flanagan hasn't been mentioned with the leeds role, though saints might be sounding him out. wouldn't mind someone of his calibre at FC, at least it would represent a significant break from the past
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| If you look across super League we are the only team to play 5 drive's and a kick.
Every team in the league including the bottom team play more expansive rugby than we do.
Boring Boring Boring.
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