Is Kearney still in charge of NZ?

And Wigan were in a different situation to Hull, last season they were 80 mins away from Old Trafford.

Too Right, Sorrows to be drowned!

wheeldon's come on in leaps and bounds.....

so agar gets no credit for houghton brisco lyne.... to a lesser extent manu, calderwood plays well (when he plays) moa? he was shocking when he got here...... no agar does nothing for young players or making players better?

We can't just reduce Horne's contract because it suits us. Tansey I would give one more chance too, we are a much better side with him in it.

no your rite, id just get rid instead

Guess he'll be getting a new 2 year contract then

????
i'll put it simply.....
injury prone on big wages...plays like a national league player..
anything else? surely we must release if we want to go forward

"Stuffed" Hardly, we were twice over their line, they scored a try from an off side position and another from a ping pong situation.

People are forgetting we had our 1st choice one to four out, lost our replacement fullback in the first ten minutes, switched around a half back who had played two competitive games in months.
All this affects team plays and cohesion. Couple this with Houghton doing a massive stint in the middle and there are some very easy answers to a lot of questions.

I take the point regarding injuries but he is under contract and won;t be gotten rid of.

We are looking for a 6/7 for next offseason from overseas, RH and SL could both go. However not next season.

no but when you look at rovers performance tonight they showed the hunger and togetherness that we dint have. players like murell ect arnt that good but they were a whole lot better then say horne. maguire at wigan has got the best out of his players at wigan even tho the same team finished 5th last year. the players weve got and considering we spend at the maximum on the cap then we should be doing a whole lot better

im not denying that he's under contract but he must be released when his contract expires, same as long......

Which was that then?

well why cant we reduce his wages when his contracts comes to an end if he dont like it then he can go but untill he starts perfroming to earn the big money then theres no option but to reduce the salary hes on or to just let him go. you cant just keep a player on big money becasue of what hes done in the past for the club, he has to start performing simple as. as for tansey id let him go dont care how good they are if the club dosent stand by the code of conduct then what does that say

When his contract comes to an end we might get rid altogether? However we are talking about next season.

well yeh for next season there isnt much we can do hes contracted but once his contract is up then the most i would offer him would be a reduced wage as a squadplayer

50% of which does not count on the cap,so a reduced deal,still at 50% might not be a bad thing,if he's prepared to become a backup 6 or 1.

So what are you suggesting?
That we simply shrug our shoulders and say "We're stuck with what we have, there's no opportunity for change" and just leave it at that, meandering along in a never ending circle.

Or have you decided that mid table mediocrity is our level and we cannot change the situation, so we should just like it and lump it. Where's the ambition in that.

rovers first try was a joke he was well offside.the ref should have gone to the video ref.result .no try .offside. end of

Yeamo becomes a 50% eligible player in the next year or two which IMO makes Horne a much less valuable asset.

True.

I'd bin yeamo as well. If all he's got in his locker are a few big hits in defence, that speaks volumes about his attacking ability. Last week, he couldn't hold onto a ball 2m from the Leeds try line!

are teams allowed more than one player operating at a 50% reductionon the cap due to 10 years service??

If I was in a brutal mood (which funnily enough, I am right now) it would be easier to name the players who I would keep.

Specifically, Fitzgibbon, O'Meley, Manu, Whiting, Briscoe & Houghton are the only members of the established first team squad who I would unreservedly keep. The rest (for various reasons) just don't bring enough to the table often enough. From the coaching staff, I'd keep Webster and no more.

But, as you say, this is just an hypothetical question. The harsh reality is, it's going to take some time to bulid a squad capable of beating the best. Essentially we're stuck with what we already have in the short term.

=#FF0000You're a disgrace with comments like that, banned! - PM