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| Quote ="hfc herts"Actually I was stating he is a waste of a signing.
If you seriously can't see what he will bring to the club then you need to be educated. One man is never the answer. Over the years I have witnessed many a side get excited about one player.
Wakefield with Wally Lewis, Wire with Johns, Rovers with Cooke
The last time I watched RL it was a team game. A sum of 17 individual parts coming together as one. Supported by a squad of players and the back room staff. Long will bring a massive wealth of experience and big match know how. Together with Fitz and O'meley plus the experience we already have I am sure we will improve massively.
People are expecting alot of Long and his salary reflects that, but in answer to your question, no he is not the answer simply because its a TEAM GAME. But boy will he assist us along the way, on and off the pitch.'" In short hes part of the answer.
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| Quote ="hfc herts"Actually I was stating he is a waste of a signing.
If you seriously can't see what he will bring to the club then you need to be educated. One man is never the answer. Over the years I have witnessed many a side get excited about one player.
Wakefield with Wally Lewis, Wire with Johns, Rovers with Cooke
The last time I watched RL it was a team game. A sum of 17 individual parts coming together as one. Supported by a squad of players and the back room staff. Long will bring a massive wealth of experience and big match know how. Together with Fitz and O'meley plus the experience we already have I am sure we will improve massively.
People are expecting alot of Long and his salary reflects that, but in answer to your question, no he is not the answer simply because its a TEAM GAME. But boy will he assist us along the way, on and off the pitch.'"
I dont need to be educated,I am an ex professional player for Hull Fc and played at all levels at school boy through to international level and coached on Hull Fc scholarship, as well as coaching local amateur. If you dont think that a world class scrum half who can create the spaces we need, is not the answer, then you need educating
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Wonder if we've told the salary cap guys about the house?'"
What has that got to do with anything?
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| longy will do for us will be even better when he brings his mate with him
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| they got him more for the coaching side of things for the younger players i think he will play the first year then will be coaching that why he got the 2 years
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| Quote ="jersey mark"I dont need to be educated,I am an ex professional player for Hull Fc and played at all levels at school boy through to international level and coached on Hull Fc scholarship, as well as coaching local amateur. If you dont think that a world class scrum half who can create the spaces we need, is not the answer, then you need educating'"
You asked if he is the answer. I have stated that he is not the total answer. We had far more problems than just a lack of scrum half this season. I do think we need a world class scrum half, every team does. Though you can count on one hand the number of world class SH in the RL world and Long is the only one in the UK. Long is a start. I fear possibly like you that we will rest on our laurals for 2 years and not bring anyone through. But given your apparent knowledge you will also know that it takes more than just one player to make a team as I have stated.
So who are you then? Name yourself so I can stop questioning your education.
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"Wonder if we've told the salary cap guys about the house?'"
As I understand it, we don't need to its a club house at the end of the day, and an off field asset we hav'nt given it to him just let him live there!!!
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"He's a character and a winner and He'll do for me!'"
You'll feel even more like that when he kicks a cheeky last minute drop goal to win you a derby match.
On the point about the pass to Meli, did he fire it slightly behind Meli or did Meli slightly over-run it?
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| Quote ="SaintsFan"You'll feel even more like that when he kicks a cheeky last minute drop goal to win you a derby match.
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As i've said on here before, that's exactly what we need. He's unpredictable - you never know what he's going to do next.
Good luck next week btw.
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| Quote ="shaun384"they got him more for the coaching side of things for the younger players i think he will play the first year then will be coaching that why he got the 2 years'"
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"As I understand it, we don't need to its a club house at the end of the day, and an off field asset we hav'nt given it to him just let him live there!!!'"
still a benefit in kind, even if he lives there rent free.
It will count im affraid.
otherwise everyone would be doing that
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| I believe the club has 4 houses in total, as investments, none of which have been included in the past caps, Danny Tickle is I know in one, they pay a peppercorn rent I believe.
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| Quote ="shaun384"they got him more for the coaching side of things for the younger players i think he will play the first year then will be coaching that why he got the 2 years'"
What's he going to coach them to do? Drink, gamble or womanize? I think he's capable of being what we need on the field, but certainly not a coach to act as a role model for the kids.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"What's he going to coach them to do? Drink, gamble or womanize? I think he's capable of being what we need on the field, but certainly not a coach to act as a role model for the kids.'"
Everyone who has lived life and is male has probably had periods in their teens / twenties when they have drunk and womanised even Wayne Bennett ( I don't know this for ceratin but I am sure he has not been a wall flower all his life). I would suggest that his wisdom and experience will assist him in helping players to see the error of their ways. You can't kid a kidder and all that.
He has been there and done it and worn the t shirt several times and I am certain that providing he has learnt from that experience he will be an ideal coach.
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| Quote ="Raggytash"What's he going to coach them to do? Drink, gamble or womanize? I think he's capable of being what we need on the field, but certainly not a coach to act as a role model for the kids.'"
He is teaching them how to play rugby, not getting them through finishing school.
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| Quote ="hfc herts"Everyone who has lived life and is male has probably had periods in their teens / twenties when they have drunk and womanised even Wayne Bennett ( I don't know this for ceratin but I am sure he has not been a wall flower all his life). I would suggest that his wisdom and experience will assist him in helping players to see the error of their ways. You can't kid a kidder and all that.
He has been there and done it and worn the t shirt several times and I am certain that providing he has learnt from that experience he will be an ideal coach.'"
this post was about sean long as a player there is no doubt about the benefit of his wisdom and what he could do for the young players . will he be that missing link that we need as a player I hope i am wrong .
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| Quote ="The Dentist Wilf"I believe the club has 4 houses in total, as investments, none of which have been included in the past caps, Danny Tickle is I know in one, they pay a peppercorn rent I believe.'"
It was over a year ago, but he told me he had bought the house that Matt Sing was staying in on Pickering Road.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"He is teaching them how to play rugby, not getting them through finishing school.'"
They will be playing whilst balancing his book on their heads. Kills two birds with one stone: more sales and good deportment when on the field of play.
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| to the 1st poster ,Long was the best out there available for the club to sign and although i worry about injuries and his age ,he is a proven 7 and i thought he was the difference last night between wigan and saints,kimorley has done a great job this year, when he was supposed to be finished so i hope Long can do the same for us ,the club did the right thing signing him ,can i ask if we hadnt of gone for long who would u have brought in instead
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| Quote ="fc-eaststander"to the 1st poster ,Long was the best out there available for the club to sign and although i worry about injuries and his age ,he is a proven 7 and i thought he was the difference last night between wigan and saints,kimorley has done a great job this year, when he was supposed to be finished so i hope Long can do the same for us ,the club did the right thing signing him ,can i ask if we hadnt of gone for long who would u have brought in instead'"
who is available nowadays depends how much money your offering,as i dont know Hull Fc accounts and salary cap available, hard to say . This post was about an actual signing not one of the thousands of rumours. The fact is we have signed Sean Long not one of the thousand rumours, so my point was, will he be that missing link that we are looking for . If i was to stab in the dark at who would i prefer evryone has there price so would have thrown money at Finch or even stefan ratchford who i think will be very good next year.
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| The scrum halves plying their trade in SL this season are not a world class group:
Burrow
Long
Robinson
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Leuluai
Brough
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Van Dijk
If it were straightforward to capture the best playmakers from the NRL, everyone would be doing it. Whilst he's past his best, Long is as much a threat in any given match as any of that list IMO, for his unpredictability if nothing else, and miles better than what we've had available in the last couple of years.
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| Quote ="TrevLovesJanice"Get frigged knöbhead. Cooke is the answer to French Connection UK all.
But thanks for your interest in Hull's premier and original rugby league team.'"
good comeback
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| Quote ="jersey mark"who is available nowadays depends how much money your offering,as i dont know Hull Fc accounts and salary cap available, hard to say . This post was about an actual signing not one of the thousands of rumours. The fact is we have signed Sean Long not one of the thousand rumours, so my point was, will he be that missing link that we are looking for . If i was to stab in the dark at who would i prefer evryone has there price so would have thrown money at Finch or even stefan ratchford who i think will be very good next year.'"
Neither Finch or Ratchford are organising halves there both stand offs for me. I'm not saying either of them aren't good players cos they are but we've been crying out for an organiser since Cooke left and the two you've mentioned aren't that type of player.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Neither Finch or Ratchford are organising halves there both stand offs for me. I'm not saying either of them aren't good players co they are but we've been crying out for an organiser since Cooke left and the two you've mentioned aren't that type of player.'"
I'd say Finch is, but agree on Ratchford, he's more of a running stand off.
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| Quote ="Suzie"Neither Finch or Ratchford are organising halves there both stand offs for me. I'm not saying either of them aren't good players cos they are but we've been crying out for an organiser since Cooke left and the two you've mentioned aren't that type of player.'"
Cooke is the type of player we are really lacking for next season in my opinion as is Ratchford, we need a player who can provide the outside backs with quality ball, look at how well Yeaman performed playing outside Cooke and with other backs such as Hall, Raynor, Calderwood and Briscoe we could have a deadly backline, at the moment having Horne at 6 I dont think we will use them to there potential.
Hopefully Long will have the impact Dykes had although I think Long will have a bit more quality around him then Dykes had to work with, he was the best available option for a club of our size, peopel mentioned the likes of Orford and Prince but it was never going to happen, a very good short term signing in my opinion.
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