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| Quote ="UllFC"he tied most of the squad down to long deals, I'm not convinced about Agar, but its hardly like he can just show half the team the door.
Sharp main signings: Manu, Sing, Maivia, Godwin, Tickle, Dykes, Berrigan, Cusack, Byrne
of those I'd only class Manu and Berrigan as successful
the others are either players who we just didn't need, or were just awful'"
Byrne...............played well in any position you put him
Cusack.............No world beater but does his job
Godwin.............Had big boots to fill did not get enough oppotunity
Tickle...............having a bad patch at the mo defensive wise
Dykes..............would loved him to be fit
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"What rovers have done in two seasons just makes us look even more pathetic, if that's possible. They have set out a plan of the squad that they wanted and have executed it almost to the letter through, on the whole, very astute recruitment. They take the pi$$ out of us at every opportunity...Cooke, Briscoe, Dobson etc..
In the meantime we have gone from an established top four side with realistic aspirations of being the very best in the country to a less than mediocre side that nobody wants to watch while KH and JR sit back in the luxury offices counting their money.
Kear, Sharpe and now Agar have consistently taken us further and further backwards to the point were we are no longer a force in SL, we have zero chance of any success and we are a very poor second even when it comes to our city's bragging rights.
Can it get any worse ???
BTW through gritted teeth, I have to say credit to our sickly little neighbours because they ARE a good side and they've actually made it look pretty easy to put together a successful SL squad with limited resources. That's what happens when you have people at the top who actually care and prioritise on-the-field success rather than off it !!!'"
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| Quote ="Standee"We shall see.'"
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Is this one of those cloak and dagger replies which rather than show any truth, only shows your last glimmer of hope that something might not be quite right at Rovers?
I love it.
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Not at all, you are not the success off the field you have been so far on it, it's that simple.
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| Quote ="dravid67"
Dykes..............would loved him to be fit
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Good player but you're right, never fit. James Smailes said on Sportstalk (with the boycott many of you might not have heard this) that Dykes never took part in a full training session in his time at the club.
Also, he's voted in the latest Rugby League World as the tenth worst import EVER (add echo).
Bit harsh for someone who simply wasn't fit.
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| Quote ="dravid67"Byrne...............played well in any position you put him
Cusack.............No world beater but does his job
Godwin.............Had big boots to fill did not get enough oppotunity
Tickle...............having a bad patch at the mo defensive wise
Dykes..............would loved him to be fit
Sing.................his last season was his best (for us )'"
Byrne... Unbelievable that we spent Briscoe's money on a guy with no size, no pace and no particular skills. Just ordinary/dependable in every department
Cusack...waste of a quota place, opposite of what we needed in a prop
Godwin...pathetic signing of a half decent player that we clearly didn't need
Tickle.... okay signing but wouldn't get into any of the top club's squads
Dykes... pathetic signing says everything about Peter Blunt
Sing....just pathetic, an old man with no pace, quota spot and big money.
Maiava... no need for words
Thanks Peter !! You did us proud !! In Hull and Manly you really fooked up two of the world's biggest clubs !!
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Good player but you're right, never fit. James Smailes said on Sportstalk (with the boycott many of you might not have heard this) that Dykes never took part in a full training session in his time at the club.'"
Indeed, he rarely even did much more than walk/talk thrugh plays, but he was a great character to have around.
Quote ="CHURCHILL"Bit harsh for someone who simply wasn't fit.'"
Also incredibly harsh for someone who almost single handedly got us to Wembley.
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Good player but you're right, never fit. James Smailes said on Sportstalk (with the boycott many of you might not have heard this) that Dykes never took part in a full training session in his time at the club.
Also, he's voted in the latest Rugby League World as the tenth worst import EVER (add echo).
Bit harsh for someone who simply wasn't fit.'"
Who was the 1st ??? Hutch
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Good player but you're right, never fit. James Smailes said on Sportstalk (with the boycott many of you might not have heard this) that Dykes never took part in a full training session in his time at the club.
Also, he's voted in the latest Rugby League World as the tenth worst import EVER (add echo).
Bit harsh for someone who simply wasn't fit.'"
TBF that was one journalist's opinon, it wasn't an opinion poll.
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| "Ordinary squad"? It was such a good post, too...
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| Quote ="Hull Kingston Convicts"But they did take 1,700,000 fans with them to the JJB, it says so on their board!'" I guess you didn't bother to actually read the thread in question then
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| Quote ="dravid67"Who was the 1st ??? Hutch
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He wasn't in it.
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| Quote ="j_hunter_hkr""Ordinary squad"? It was such a good post, too...'"
It's not an outstanding squad if you go through it player by player. The strength of it is in the way the players fit together as a whole, and the way Morgan has them playing as a unit.
You don't need a superstar squad if you get the key positions right and you coach them well. Morgan is easily the most important factor in your success IMO.
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| Quote ="me 'n' our kid"HKR...........top of the league with an ordinary squad
but with an outstanding albiet obnoxious coach, and a board room full of people from Hull and ex players swarming like sharks around the club and players.
We are so far adrift of reality it's not funny.
There you go, I've said it we are 2nd best to the dobbins within 3 years, and I defy anybody to say different, we are run by incompetents.'"
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| Quote ="CHURCHILL"Good player but you're right, never fit. James Smailes said on Sportstalk (with the boycott many of you might not have heard this) that Dykes never took part in a full training session in his time at the club.
Also, he's voted in the latest Rugby League World as the tenth worst import EVER (add echo).
Bit harsh for someone who simply wasn't fit.'"
i think him being the 10th worst import ever is very harsh, he was man on the match in every round of the CC for us for starters, and he may have made the difference in the final
and if they've missed Maivia off they've done very poor research, he was one of the poorest players i've ever seen in the black and white.
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's not an outstanding squad if you go through it player by player. The strength of it is in the way the players fit together as a whole, and the way Morgan has them playing as a unit.
You don't need a superstar squad if you get the key positions right and you coach them well. Morgan is easily the most important factor in your success IMO.'"
they've bought players in the correct positions, I woulden't say their and wingers are anything exciting...but it doesn't matter when they have Cooke and Dobson spreading quality balls out wide.
whereas Hull could have Offiah and Vainikolo in their prime on each wings and still struggle to give them the ball.
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| Quote ="UllFC"i think him being the 10th worst import ever is very harsh, he was man on the match in every round of the CC for us for starters, and he may have made the difference in the final
and if they've missed Maivia off they've done very poor research, he was one of the poorest players i've ever seen in the black and white.'"
He was also VERY injury prone which we knew when when we signed him on big money and a quota place. He was a joke signing in the extreme !!!
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"Byrne... Unbelievable that we spent Briscoe's money on a guy with no size, no pace and no particular skills. Just ordinary/dependable in every department
Cusack...waste of a quota place, opposite of what we needed in a prop
Godwin...pathetic signing of a half decent player that we clearly didn't need
Tickle.... okay signing but wouldn't get into any of the top club's squads
Dykes... pathetic signing says everything about Peter Blunt
Sing....just pathetic, an old man with no pace, quota spot and big money.
Maiava... no need for words
Thanks Peter !! You did us proud !! In Hull and Manly you really fooked up two of the world's biggest clubs !!'"
exactly my point in the earlier post: Byrne, Cusack, Godwin and Tickle aren't bad players, and would do a job for someone in SL...but in a squad that already had 'workhorses' like Radford and Dowes, we needed someone different.
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| Quote ="thehullwhitestar"He was also VERY injury prone which we knew when when we signed him on big money and a quota place. He was a joke signing in the extreme !!!'"
oh I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have done a proper medical and decided against it...
just saying its a bit harsh for RL world to be putting Dykes in a top10 worst signing category, because when he did actually play you could see he was a good player. There have been far more money grabbing overrated players to grace superleague.
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| Quote ="UllFC"oh I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have done a proper medical and decided against it...
just saying its a bit harsh for RL world to be putting Dykes in a top10 worst signing category, because when he did actually play you could see he was a good player. There have been far more money grabbing overrated players to grace superleague.'"
Dykes was up front with th club before he came, I doubt there was anyone more surprised than him when his contract offer came through.
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| Quote ="UllFC"oh I'm not suggesting we shouldn't have done a proper medical and decided against it...
just saying its a bit harsh for RL world to be putting Dykes in a top10 worst signing category, because when he did actually play you could see he was a good player. There have been far more money grabbing overrated players to grace superleague.'"
Yeh you're right but we were linked with a whole host of decent scum halves and Peter Blunt goes and signs someone who we all suspected, before he even got here, wouldn't play that much.
Just another example of our joke recruitment strategy of late.
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| Quote ="Kosh"It's not an outstanding squad if you go through it player by player. The strength of it is in the way the players fit together as a whole, and the way Morgan has them playing as a unit.
You don't need a superstar squad if you get the key positions right and you coach them well. Morgan is easily the most important factor in your success IMO.'"
I agree, but to say it's "ordinary" is harsh. From weakest link to strongest link our squad is up there with the best. Then add the team spirit the players seem to have and Justin Morgan's coaching, you can see why we could be top (or 1 point off) at the half way mark.
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| To put this post into perspective regardless of the majority of comments relating to the strengths and weaknesses of both clubs and what the long term and short term future holds:
People will always judge success on whats happening right now and will base future predictions on it, forget what may happen or what has happened in the past... its all about now
More importantly, you won't see a thread like this on the Rovers board, why? The club and fans are all commited to the cause of concentrating on the success of their own club in every department, not the rise or fall of any other club, local or not!
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| Quote ="RatedRSuperstar"
More importantly, you won't see a thread like this on the Rovers board, why? The club and fans are all commited to the cause of concentrating on the success of their own club in every department, not the rise or fall of any other club, local or not!'"
You have got to be kidding. The Rovers board is littered with Hull FC threads.
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