JW was more than welcome at MS3CP today,always a place for a Hull legend.

Ehab has [iclaimed[/i that's what he wants, and then challenged FC to do something that isn't within their power. The club can't waive the confidentiality clause of their own volition - it's a contractual obligation. Ehab either doesn't realise how contract law works or is trying to trick the club into breaking their contract. Your choice.

i think we all know how this is going to end

Well good old Ehab - perhaps he should have thought abought this when they took over the SMC but of course he would'nt would he cos he is as much bullied by The Doctor as every one else and as far as I am concerned has no crediblity - Adam Pearson will keep his counsel as long as it suits Hull FC and I for one will back him all the way.
And by the way nobber what has happened with AP and his personnel problems has nothing to do with mine or your time at the Stadium/

Hull FC can't waive a Hull FC confidentiality clause?

There's only two parties involved in this, the Allam's and Pearson, the Allam's have challenged Adam to make everything public, who do you think is stopping him, the Queen? Michael Jackson? Micky Mouse?

And you have the nerve to call me thicko?

its like banging your head against a brick wall!!

lambrettaman is either very thick or good at acting it to not understand the situation


Ehab wants fc to break their confidentiallity clause so he can use it to terminate our playing contract and rights at the KC. Im with the club on this one, say nothing! just pay for the JW pics to go back up, (either the club or council) and forget the rest!

The part where you claim to know allam wants the finer details of the deal out in the open. Carry on believing what you read in the wail if you want but honestly, it's a pile of shoite

I could challenge a couple of tenants in properties I own to stop paying their rent but then I'd kick them out. Do you have any knowledge of teh law of contract?

Premier Club Tickets were bought as Hull City/Hull FC/Concerts etc in the beginning - Companies bought them for the whole shebang. You talk as if Premier Club was exclusive to Hull City - I dont think so remember you were a lowly 3rd Division club at the time - I assume the Premier Club could be slighly different now cos Marketing them could be a problem because companies have rained in on extra costs. Recession etc.

Unfortunatly Scooter guy is correct, Premier club had 2 tiers, one which didnt include the rugby

Unsure is its same these days though

Oh, for the love of...



Hull FC [isigned[/i the clause as part of their contract. It isn't [itheir[/i clause - it's the other party's. And they can't be released from it by some bloke having a rant in the local rag. They would need formal and legally binding written permission - possibly even a modification of the contract document signed by both parties. Now, since as of Friday night nobody from the SMC had even bothered to speak directly to the club I find it unlikely that any such document exists.


Feel free to quote where I did that.

There are generally speaking 2 types of CDA. Mutual and Singular. The agreement between the SMC and Hull FC or more likely Adam Pearson (since his departure from his tenure with Hull City) is most certainly singular based upon the respective chatter and silence from the 2 parties involved.
The “party” who is restricted in what they can say and for how long would be mistaken if they felt free to comment based on media speculation of a request to do so by means of voluntary waivering. Never heard of that one. There are always 2 or more parties signed up to any such agreement, such CDA’s cannot be waivered on a whim by either party
Such a change to allow disclosure before the end term date of the agreement has been reached could only be actioned by a new agreement which would give the party bound by confidentiality new instructions of what can be said and to whom and the duration of said Agreement.
On this basis it is clear that AP is making exactly the right decision in remaining silent and the club too, as even if the agreement does not mention HULL FC specifically the likeliihood is that any disclosure by the persons employed by AP could be argued as a Disclosure by AP (this is very often written into the CDA). He will most certainly have signed the CDA as the owner of Hull FC.
If behind the scenes things happen to free up his freedom to communicate whilst ensuring no risk to AP/Hull FC financial or otherwise, then I’m sure he will speak up pronto.
In the mean time he and the club are actually not at any disadvantage during this period of silence. Playing out legal games in the media is not good practise at any time.
Crying out for a statement is a normal fan reaction we all normally crave but on this occasion we need to be patient, back the club 100% in their position. Be wary of Allam soundbites and be sceptical of the HDM agenda and all that is written until they become real journalists and search out the truths and hidden objectives behind the protaganists of this affair.
I don’t think that will happen any time soon.

I understood so much of this but was lost with other parts, but this guy seems to understand the laws surrounding this situation.
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"until they become real journalists and search out the truths and hidden objectives behind the protaganists of this affair.
I don’t think that will happen any time soon."

We can agree that they are not real journalists, but you speak as if there are "truths and hidden objectives" and present it as fact. This is merely opinion and speculation, although admittedly I think it's fairly obvious this is Sir Allam's last attempt at getting ownership of the stadium before sanctioning plans to move the tigers elsewhere.

I think the Allam's have pulled out a royal flush this time, as it's been made fairly clear that it's within everyone's interests for the football club to remain at the KC. FC couldn't afford to rent the stadium alone, and the council couldn't afford to keep and maintain the stadium with just FC as significant tenants.

I'm sure cllr. Geragthy and co would love nothing more than the KC stadium to be an independent home for Hull FC, but realistically, if Allam gets planning permission and gives the green light to start construction for a football stadium outside of Hull, what choice do the council have but to agree to sale, and what choice does the rugby club have but to step aside and allow this to happen?

I should be wary of upsetting the Allam's too much, because it could be just a matter of time until the phrase "don't bite the hand that feeds you" comes into effect. Sometimes it pays off to just bite the bullet, and if I'm correct in my judgement of the situation, I hope this is possible for the sake of sport in Hull.

Going Out On A Limb Here.. But, If The Allams Did Leave The KC And Build Stadium In Melton. Were Would City Play Whilst Being Built??

Also Everyone Knows Fc Couldn't Afford To Keep The Stadium Alone, What Chances Would We Have Regarding The RFL Coming In And Helping Us Out..??

Would Council Sell To RFL?? If Reached Agreement On Both Parts..

Not Implying Nothing, Just A Question

It has been said a few times, that the Council cannot sell the club, and even if they could they would have to sell at the market price.

It seems that City pay 1 million a year rent, and I would think much (if not all) of that would be the cost of City being there. I would dare to believe that the short fall, could be made up by staging other events at the stadium.

Likelihood of this happening anytime soon appears to be pretty low. See Brighton & Hove Albion for details - took 10 years and they were homeless at the time. Localism bill, plus the need for any proposal to go Westminster makes it a distant prospect at best, surely? Or do you know otherwise?

[url=http://www.midfielddynamo.com/owners/notorious_british.htmAn interesting list[/url

George Reynolds is my 2nd cousin

not sure how it relates to this issue though?

Never said it did, especially if we narrow it down to JW's pictures but then there's already been plenty on here that could be classed as O/T. I was actually trying to find a story on a football club (East Midlands or East Anglia IIRC), who were promised riches beyond belief including a new super stadium, only to find their dreams in tatters

Thanks, was just checking to make sure the link wasn't going somewhere different, and for a football club promised the world and not getting as far and as fast as promised, look at Leicester, they got Sven and "we got Sol but he's not a soldier", he spent millions, they're in a similar position to City league wise.

This has never been in question. In fact the stadium only went ahead once both City and FC agreed to play there as it is not viable with only one sports club.


Once again, the Council have always envisaged the stadium as the home for both City and FC - not either one on it's own. And the Allams don't have the money to build another stadium. If the did then they would have made a reasonable offer for the KC rather than trying to get it for next to nothing and then flouncing off when they failed.


The Allams are not feeding FC. Unless you're just a mug who can't see beyond the spin in the HDM.

We have a winner, take anything from the second bottom shelf.

I've been a Hull City Premier Club member since the day the KC opened, there's always been an additional charge to expand the membership to include Hull FC games(it used to be a very small amount, but it increased substantially ahead of this season) and members had to buy gig tickets at face value too.

You're obviously not accept what I'm saying about the confidentiality agreement, so I won't bang on about it, but Adam is obviously not going to breach it unless it's removed completely, so the suggestion that there's some sort of plan to get him to breach it, simply so FC can get thrown out for breaching it, is ridiculous.

Kosh, my comment about being called a thicko was aimed at the board as a whole, not you specifically and though I may have my failings, being thick certainly isn't one of them.