Totally agree, but there are a few players who should be dropped in front of him, Smith saying he hasn't played well at all this season is a strange one too, one I don't agree with and why not say that about Lane, Evans or other people he has dropped.

I'd say that he definitely won't be here next season, think other clubs will be interested and he will want to leave now.

Hes always being one of those for me Saviello, between average and good. His best traits going forward but defensively he is a shambles ans he is very injury prone.

I cant say in honesty Saviello has had a good season. Being better then his peers isnt alot of creditibility for me.

Do agree.

Sneyd is visibly fitter though, so you wonder what standards we have. Salford also play him alongside the very mobile Croft which means Sneyds lack of movement isnt as much of an issue.

And Abdull and Litten and Hadley.

Injuries are his biggest issue, had tol many, but we knew this would be a risk, probably a big earner too, should easily be in our 17 as it stands though, even if he doesn't stay.

Hadley

Playing the best rugby of his career. Played very well on year loan at Wakey but reverted to average when back with you. I was not impressed when we signed him but played well under Smith and moved up a gear this season under Peters. You may scoff but he is playing better than anyone in you pack at the moment. It must be very hard to raise a smile at the moment and your only pleasure is to get a dig at someone else.

Keith you have jusy decribed yourself.

That is exactley what you do, every day on here.

Without a doubt for me hes our best option at second row currentley. However we are talking small margins on him being better then Lane and Griffin on present form.

Not much between Griffin and Savelio for sure, at least they put a shift in and run hard.

Lane has been awful for a few years and lives off the odd run or try. 4 hits up Friday, can't be defended. He should be no where near the side, would rather play any of the reserve or academy bavkrowers in front of him.

No, I’m very happy. Following a club making progress. Enjoying all our matches even when we lose as I know we have competed. The wins are much better of course. The annihilations as on Friday are extra special. Do not confuse my jibes as sour grapes, those tend to come from the supporters of losing clubs. You should be appreciating that at the moment. This is the third season you have been the second club in the City. We finished lower than we should have done last year due the unfortunate actions of our then coach. We were in a playoff spot before the wheels fell off. Due to the great team spirit amongst the players and the coaching of Mags and Co we were able to recover somewhat and still give you a thrashing on your patch and finish above you. Our team spirit, enthusiasm and skill amongst the players, the up-to date coaching methods employed by Willie Peters are things FC supporters can only dream about. That is the difference between our two clubs. Never in decades of supporting Rovers, even in bankruptcy have any of our teams not shown team spirit and pride. I generally feel sorry for the supporters of teams at or near the foot of the table as we all know how upsetting and difficult that is. In FC’s case however that feeling changes to delight after having to endure the jibes from a “big” club. Long may your misery continue.

You could have just wrote, all I'm bothered about is finishing above Hull, would have saved alot of time Keith.

Enjoy it Keith because history tells me your period of "dominace" never ever lasts long. I mean we keep hearing that your club is on the up and we are light years behind you on and off the pitch. Yet our academy taught yours a lesson this weekend, youve made one final appearance this last decade and your meassure of success is buolt on a club that sits 11th and not first.

Make no bones about it Rovers are a good team but you are not making progress, Hull are just getting worse.

So bitter



You know Hull will always be the bigger club and it kills you. Enjoy your current run of "success" and try imagining how good it feels to celebrate your club winning a trophy or two rather than being temporarily less than the local rivals.

Readings things into my post again. Of course being above you is normally important as I’m sure you would be happier if the situation was reversed. However we are aiming as a first step to get into the playoffs. As we showed two years ago it is possible to progress from there. Let’s face it at the moment being above FC is no achievement at all.

History should also tell you that history does not always repeat itself. Remember Ferguson’s comments about Man City that came back to bite him in the bum. I’m not saying the same will happen but in view of your parlous financial state you may not want to put your hard cash on it.

Only an FC fan would deny that we are making progress. Most pundits, ex players and officials seem to think otherwise. Still if saying that makes you feel better, good luck to you. We do agree on one thing though FC are just getting worse. From memory even a worse squad than the last time you were relegated.

That’s a big smile for someone supporting a team that’s 11th out of 12 in the table and has just been trounced 0-40 at home.

Hadley is bang average

Your coach did not think so, nor does our new coach. Still what do they know compared to Thetalentboy?

I couldnt care less about KR to be honest with you, Id like to beat you in a derby but I know that just being better then you wont be enough or hasnt being enough for a good 95 percent of my time supporting FC over the last 30 years to wet my appetite.

If you not being considered relegation candidates anymore is progress then so be it. I cant help but feel you think your better then you actually are due to our current situation.

I mean we need to talk facts here, youll never attract home game crowds over 15000 no matter how good you are. It wasnt that long ago you had to beg for an academy license. It wasnt that long ago Hudgell spat his dummy out or you got relegated.

History should tell you one thing, nothing good lasts forever. If KR as a club get over there obsession at just wanting to beat FC and finish above them then you could start to compete for honours. I cant help but feel though most KR fans will be happy with this season knowing your main priority is achieved. Ask any player whose played for KR in SL and they will tell you what the main goal is.

Now who’s thinking the are more important than they are?

You cant disagree can you ?

Your very presence here shows your obsession.

Tough times for Hull FC at the moment (not for the first time in the last 45 years of supporting them) but rugby league doesn't define my life. Friday afternoon aside I've had a great weekend so far.

On that basis then Tuimavave should be dropped for the Leeds match but will he?
Savellio will be back and he will drop Lane hopefully from a great height to wake him up

Sneyds form is far more to do with the players he has around him and the style of play and nothing to do with so called pressure of playing for Hull FC