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| Quote ="deslawson"A really well thought out post which sums it up perfectly.'" ...by someone who is happy to see "his" team lose.
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| It always seemed to me that radford epitomised the averageness about the club since 2007. I well remember countless instances of him as captain, stood behind the sticks following an opposition try, hands on hips, saying nothing to the other players. If he wasn't an inspiration as captain he was hardly likely to be one as a coach.
I've said it before, appointing a 1st time coach (the 4th in a row at the club), was always a high risk strategy and one with a low % chance of success
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| Quote ="ccs"...by someone who is happy to see "his" team lose.'"
So you disagree with knockers post do you ? You know hull are not my team ,but his post would fit a lot of s/l teams !!
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"It always seemed to me that radford epitomised the averageness about the club since 2007. I well remember countless instances of him as captain, stood behind the sticks following an opposition try, hands on hips, saying nothing to the other players. If he wasn't an inspiration as captain he was hardly likely to be one as a coach.
I've said it before, appointing a 1st time coach (the 4th in a row at the club), was always a high risk strategy and one with a low % chance of success'"
Correct me if iam wrong,but didnt he spend his best years at bradford ?
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| Quote ="davey37"Maybe "pat on the back" was not the correct thing for EHFC to write?
But we should encourage Motu and not slag off everything he does/says.
He's only been in the role about 6 months anyway hasn't he?'"
why isn't it? I know our targeted players for 2015. So I think it is. Imho
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| Quote ="ccs"...by someone who is happy to see "his" team lose.'"
That's utter , happy..you're another who can love off. Do you really think I WANT my team to lose week in week out as we have been doing until last week..jesus christ, how moronic. I said and if you'd have bothered to actually read my post properly, I would have preferred (See that's not being happy about it) to have lost so we could see the back of Radford which would have been for the greater good. A few could be doing with going with him too.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"Do you really think I WANT my team to lose week in week out .... I would have preferred to have lost so we could see the back of Radford which would have been for the greater good. A few could be doing with going with him too.'"
I see where you're coming from, even though I don't agree, but its a fine line tbh
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"That's utter rubbish, happy..you're another who can love off. Do you really think I WANT my team to lose week in week out as we have been doing until last week..jesus christ, how moronic. I said and if you'd have bothered to actually read my post properly, I would have preferred (See that's not being happy about it) to have lost so we could see the back of Radford which would have been for the greater good. A few could be doing with going with him too.'"
But you couldn't have guaranteed him departing, even if we had lost.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"That's utter rubbish, happy..you're another who can love off. Do you really think I WANT my team to lose week in week out as we have been doing until last week..jesus christ, how moronic. I said and if you'd have bothered to actually read my post properly, I would have preferred (See that's not being happy about it) to have lost so we could see the back of Radford which would have been for the greater good. A few could be doing with going with him too.'" So how many games do we need to win before you end your campaign against the club and most of the supporters who actually attend matches?
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"You still don't get it do you..never mind...I'm wasting my breath
EDIT..hint, you don't always have to spend more money to make things better, you don't have to ask the staff to go above and beyond all the time, you don't have to insist on perfection, you don't have to have the latest 'in fashion' whatever (in relation to anything pertaining to your business), it's about having a set of goals to aim toward as individuals and as a group/organisation.
As a club we aren't ever going to get anywhere because we have an owner who doesn't have a clue, is impatient, unrealistic and dare I say it, has 'other' personal problems that manifest themselves in the way he goes about things (make of that statement what you will). We also have some in positions that just aren't cutting the mustard, that aren't able to bring to the table what is required, it's nothing personal but as an 'investor' in 'our' club I want the right people doing the right things at the right time, co-ordinated by someone who actually knows what they are doing with regard to achieving success in a professional environment..Pearson isn't that Person, nor is Radford, how much simpler can I make it?
It's the simple things like the FC live, I bought it first time it was out, £60, yeah I'll have that, quality (as in viewable quality not content) was gash(making a SKY HD broadcast into something that looks like it was recorded using a potato is a whole different level of incompetance!!!) but sure they'll make it better, club says we are going to make it better yadda yadda. Did it, answer no! Did the club bother responding to my email regarding such..answer, no! Did they lose my business for purchasing the package, yes! I explained I'd have been happy to pay more for better quality but obviously they aren't interested in such things.. that's just the tip of the iceberg frankly.'"
Best post ive read in a long time! ![bow down a014.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//a014.gif)
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"As a club we aren't ever going to get anywhere because we have an owner who doesn't have a clue, is impatient, unrealistic and dare I say it, has 'other' personal problems that manifest themselves in the way he goes about things (make of that statement what you will). We also have some in positions that just aren't cutting the mustard, that aren't able to bring to the table what is required, it's nothing personal but as an 'investor' in 'our' club I want the right people doing the right things at the right time, co-ordinated by someone who actually knows what they are doing with regard to achieving success in a professional environment..Pearson isn't that Person, nor is Radford, how much simpler can I make it?'"
So what's your solution to the ownership debacle that you say Adam Pearson is? As far as I know there's not a queue of investors waiting to buy the club, but correct me if I'm wrong. According to you his incompetence and "personal problems" are insurmountable, but with no alternative owner, what's your realistic suggestion? I'd be interested in what these problems and behaviours are, so could you share them, or if not PM me?
I'm not suggesting BTW that everything's brilliant, far from it. But ambition has to be tempered with realism.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"why isn't it? I know our targeted players for 2015. So I think it is. Imho'"
Go on then, spill the beans, spill the beans, and let see how much your "in the know"
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"why isn't it? I know our targeted players for 2015. So I think it is. Imho'"
Because as others have said he is then doing the job he is paid for.
PM the names and I guarantee they won't be repeated on here until confirmed. Then you can both have a pat on the back.
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| Quote ="davey37"Because as others have said he is then doing the job he is paid for.
PM the names and I guarantee they won't be repeated on here until confirmed. Then you can both have a pat on the back.'"
Haha I only pm wilf, my mate, he's trustable.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"Quote ="davey37"Maybe "pat on the back" was not the correct thing for EHFC to write?
But we should encourage Motu and not slag off everything he does/says.
He's only been in the role about 6 months anyway hasn't he?'"
why isn't it? I know our targeted players for 2015. So I think it is. Imho'"
It doesn't matter who we are targeting.
What matters is who we end up signing.
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| Quote ="davey37"Because as others have said he is then doing the job he is paid for.
PM the names and I guarantee they won't be repeated on here until confirmed. Then you can both have a pat on the back.'"
hes full of , why say he knows if he cant say! If he does pm you them, make sure you tell the world, so we can oust him as the fraud he his ha
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| He knows the square root of feck all about the club.
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| Quote ="knockersbumpMKII"What's the first part got to do with anything I said, Easthullfc fan is bigging up MT for doing his job, that's the thing he's just doing his job, nothing more, I don't see that he's done anything spectacular as yet or going through hoops to make things happen yet this fan is saying that he is "doing right by the club", WTF does that mean, seriously? This individual cannot see that Radford doesn't have the skillset or personal attributes to be a SL coach never mind one aiming to be competing for trophies, yet he wants fans to blindly throw their support toward him.
A person whom has already gone back on his word about leaving if he couldn't cut the mustard, a coach whom at the beginning of the season spouted rubbish about us having had a kicking coach on board for 'hours' (in the context of it being a lot more than that) when it was so plainly obvious that wasn't the case at all, the coach that can't accept that some players needed a loving rocket up their s yet others got punished by being put on loan instead, that he's made basic tactical errors with interchange time and again, taken the oppostion for granted (Widnes was an epic failure in that respect)
I'm not withdrawing my support, I'll still go when I can because I don't want to support anyone else, if I lived in/around Hull I'd go every home game despite how poop we are, i'd go if we got relegated, the fact is I don't, a 310 mile round trip is a drag for a Friday especially coming by car, four trips including match day ticket cost me the same as a season ticket, that's just the way it is.
However as a fan, as a life long supporter I feel that the club is just existing, we made some strides in the right direction under Gentle, but seeing the bigger picture, seeing what it takes to actually make the top 4 and semi's and finals regularly with a very real chance of winning silverware evades the owners and the people involved in running the club.
The whole culture, professionalism is lacking(Gentle was the most professional thing to happen to this club in years!), people are just 'doing their jobs' without any trees being pulled up, especially by those that wield the most power/have greatest effect.
Root and branch should be exactly that, everyone needs appraising, everything single aspect of the club needs looking at by someone outside the club and comparing it to the Wigan and Leeds' of this world and beyond, looking at NFL and how they approach things..we are still so far behind it is ridiculous, the fact we got to Wembley last year was a miracle in some ways, a big pinch of that down to the coach.. This coach will probably fail to get us into the top 8.
I'm sick to death of failed promises, penny pinching, idiotic rash decisions, no backbone to follow through, no professionalism, no real clue on what it actually means to look at every angle to succeed.
The problem is that people are so set in their ways, they don't want the boat rocked for fear of losing their jobs, nobody will come in and even if they do most of the tough decisions, the most serious recommendations would be ignored or not acted upon properly, because that is what 'we' are as a club, second rate also rans with not the gumption to recognise that is what we are.'"
Sums up my post yesterday, we are have become a mediocre club. You just have to look at the fact we gave Gentle the bullet and replaced with Radford. Going backwards at an alarming rate.
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| Quote ="Hessle Roader"Outstanding!! An object lesson in the use of sarcasm and I agree with every word you've written. For someone to actually blame the supporters for effectively holding the club back (GM1) is lunacy. Without these supporters where is the money going to come from to try and move the club forward. We're all frustrated with the lack of progress that's been made but not rolling up on match day, or buying our season ticket, will only make the situation worse. We need to all be there as much as possible, or else I fear we won't have a super league team to support.
Rant over!!'"
Ok I'll crawl up Radfords ar5e, pretend everything is rosey in the camp and daydream along shall I? Do do do de dooo
Yes the supporters are paying to go to games, but AP knows and so did Kath, that as long as we aim for top 8 and win the odd playoff game, the majority of fans wil be happy. That's settling for mediocrity, just getting by, doing just enough to please the masses.
Id say we're like Canberra but with a worse coach, both can't attract a decent signing and can't string of results together.
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| Martyn Sadler has tweeted that Tony Smith appears to have ruled himself out of the Dragons job....does this increase the possibility he's taking over at Hull next year? Especially with the twitter rumours that Agar quit Wakefield to take over at Warrington next season?
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| Quote ="ccs"So how many games do we need to win before you end your campaign against the club and most of the supporters who actually attend matches?'"
Against the club? 'My Campaign' as you erroneously state is against Radford for the reasons I've mentioned and to a certain extent Pearson, they aren't 'the club', you fail to make the distinction between them and what to me is 'the club', they just happen to be the incumbants.
As I stated at the beginning of the season, with the level of players we have we'd win some games with no coach at all and I stand by that, however under Radford it won't be many so how many games will it take in itself is completely and utterly irrelevent because with him aqt the helm we're furked.
IMO Radford is a backstabbing, two faced incompetent whom has the bare faced cheek to take a job he isn't (And never will be) anywhere near ready for. IF he was that much of a man he'd have said sorry Adam, I really am not ready, I need at least 4/5 years plying my trade (and not necessarilty at hull).
I don't want a man in charge who is graceless, has broken his word and in my humble opinion is not fit to even be an assistant never mind the head coach. he fails to see what the problems are and by his own admittance cannot fix them, he's incompetent, not skilled or nuanced enough to take this club anywhere near where we want to be and yet even though HIS failings are there for all to see we have him putting part of the blame on the fans ![Twisted Evil icon_twisted.gif](//www.rlfans.com/images/smilies//icon_twisted.gif)
It would seem despite all that some fans are up his so far they could do a colonoscopy on him.
Does that answer your question?
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| Hull Daily Mail going with the Terry Campese rumour this morning, saying that he's a target along with Dobson and Leuluai.
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| Quote ="GM1"
Yes the supporters are paying to go to games, but AP knows and so did Kath, that as long as we aim for top 8 and win the odd playoff game, the majority of fans wil be happy. That's settling for mediocrity, just getting by, doing just enough to please the masses.
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Just because fans continue to pay to games doesn't mean they are happy. It's called supporting your team through thick and thin.
Do you not read forums and speak to other fans? You can tell from the atmosphere at games that the majority of fans are NOT happy.
But they continue to attend games because that is what FANS do!
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