He could hardly do worse than most of our recent half backs

but thats why im saying lets sign someone like robson who is more experienced and maybe better quality and allow ellis to drift in and out of the team to see wether he can at this level ect

Robson is no world beater thats a fact. A waste of a quota spot unless we're really desperate.

Seymour is trouble; the kind of player we've been trying to get rid of.

I would rather use our cap and quota on a top forward.

That's why if we pay Longy a minimal amount this year and back load it onto next years contract we'll create space on the [isalary cap[/i ,ie , the whole point of my post!!

His contracts already lodged with the rfl.

Why would you want to give long another season?

Its my understand that as soon as you pull on a pair of boots your full wage goes onto the cap so this wouldn't work, and that's why we breached it before because Andy lasts salary As a coach went onto the cap as soon as he played a game.

We're between a rock and a hard place. ellis is on a 2 year contract and hasn't been signed to sit in the 20's for 2 years. the plan was presumably to sign long for another year and to gauge ellis' progress during that time to see if he was capable of being our 1st choice 7 moving forward. If he was great, if not we had long and obst contract money to find someone who was. No decent scrum half will sign for 12 months so I'd be surprised if we bring one in. obst/ellis and horne in the halfs next year I reckon

id take matthew elliott right now, or daniel anderson, both proven winners at sl level....

Daniel Anderson had Saints playing some of the greatest rugby I've ever seen, Superb attack with a mean defence. But he did have players that could catch , Pass , Support in numbers , Dummy runners , Quick play the ball , Good defensive Line speed ect ect.
It would be like starting with an u9's side for him if he was to come here.

Long apologises to the fans: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html Sounds like like this season could be his last.

Long apologises to the fans: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html Sounds like like this season could be his last.

Quote ="tommyfromhull"Long apologises to the fans: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html Sounds like like this season could be his last.'" nobody blames Long for the fact we should never have signed him, I am certain.

Quote ="tommyfromhull"Long apologises to the fans: www.thisishullandeastriding.co.u ... story.html Sounds like like this season could be his last.'" nobody blames Long for the fact we should never have signed him, I am certain.

by the sound of that thats it for him at the end of this season

And we need to replace him with a 7. I don't believe they would go into the new season with Ellis/Obst as our starting 7.

Where is this 7 coming from?

I don't know. I appreciate that they're like rocking horse poop, but I just can't see us starting with Obst next season. Ellis, maybe, but by all accounts he isn't up to it yet.

So say this will be Longys and Fitzys last seasons at the club and not knowing what we'll do with Lauaki, although I reckon we'll keep him. What is the team shaping up like? Will, Will Sharp still be our right sided winger or will Whiting get the nod?

McKinnon
Briscoe
Yeaman
Gleeson
Sharp
Horne
Obst/Ellis/New signing
O'Meley
Houghton
Moa
Tickle
Manu
Westerman

Lauaki
Radford
(maybe 2 of) Heremaia/Whiting/Dowes?

No doubt I've forgot someone

I can see us putting Heremaia at 7 and having houghton/obst at hooker

I'd say

1. McKinnon quota/non fed
2. Sharp
3. Gleeson
4. Yeaman
5. Briscoe
6. Horne
7.
8. O'meley quota/non fed
9. Heremaia quota/non fed
10.
11. Green
12. Tickle
13. Westerman

14. Moa non fed
15. Dowes/Radford
16. Manu
17. Houghton

If Obst and Lauaki aren't the choices for 7 and 10 it's pointless having them.

I put Moa as starting because I think that's what Agar wants. But I'd rather have him off the bench, always thought Moa, Manu and Lauaki off the bench had the potential to scare the out of teams.



But I agree we still need a prop, would love to sign someone like Griffin, Mason even Larne Patrick. Would we be able tempt him?

Be happy if we let Lauaki go, think Obst is a great squad member.

Tbf to Obst he's only quota so would 'share'a overseas spot with Moa, I just can't see us signing a uk prop or half of a great ability.

Just me for Larne Patrick then?

He's got another year on his contract.

Darryl Griffin?

End of 2012.