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| Quote ="Edenmain"I dont think you need 4 super star props. I have seen NRL teams use 2 quality ones and bring though youth players and/or cheaper alternatives. Im sure there are to bright young things somewhere who deserve a shot.
Tough position but if you are a decent size and you can hold onto a ball you can give it a good shot. That is what [uDowes and Radford [/udo but im sure there are 2 others out there who can do it on half the cash they are on.
They are still most likely on [u"International Player" [/usized wages.'"
-with our injury problems,we need more than 2 'star' props!!!ogre and moa fit the bill,but we need 2 more-would people be happy with dowes being retained?or radford?i think 1 will stay and 1 will go.
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| Quote ="Edenmain"I dont think you need 4 super star props. I have seen NRL teams use 2 quality ones and bring though youth players and/or cheaper alternatives. Im sure there are to bright young things somewhere who deserve a shot.
Tough position but if you are a decent size and you can hold onto a ball you can give it a good shot. That is what Dowes and Radford do but im sure there are 2 others out there who can do it on half the cash they are on.
They are still most likely on "International Player" sized wages.'"
2005 was built around 4 props who were superstars for the day, all thanks to Kear
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| A definate no to getting wheeldon back. Why would you want someone potentially 5th choice commanding that kind of money under the salary cap. Would rather run with 4 props and use one of our youngsters as cover thus freeing up money for a decent centre.
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| Quote ="worldwidefaithful"A definate no to getting wheeldon back. Why would you want someone potentially 5th choice commanding that kind of money under the salary cap. Would rather run with 4 props and use one of our youngsters as cover thus freeing up money for a decent centre. AND FULL BACK AND WINGER X 2 AND S/O AND S/H AND HOOKER AND 2 X SECOND ROWERS AND A 13'"
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| Not big enough. Not good enough. Will never be more than average at best.
Yes we'll probably offer him a 3yr deal !!!
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| No to Wheeldon and a deffo no to keeping Dowes.
Dowes offers us nothing, been robbing a wage as a SL prop for the last 2 seasons. No doubt the club will offer him a new deal though!
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| Quote ="GM1"No to Wheeldon and a deffo no to keeping Dowes.
Dowes offers us nothing, been robbing a wage as a SL prop for the last 2 seasons. No doubt the club will offer him a new deal though!'"
So yes to radford?
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| Quote ="Sheldon"So yes to radford?'"
1 of them will be getting a new contract i reckon.With Yak going i can't see us letting another 2 props go.
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| In an ideal world, Dowes, Cusack and Radford would all go. They are just not good enough for a team that wants to be successful. However, with no quota spots available and not many good British props, one of them will end up staying even though they offer close to nothing.
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| Quote ="PAUL M"From memory, we were offering him around £30-35k and I think Rovers were offering £40-50k which is why he went. Gordon Gekko would be able to be more specific.'"
I bet he could but I doubt he is gonna start posting his wages on here mate
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| Quote ="RockNRolla"1 of them will be getting a new contract i reckon.With Yak going i can't see us letting another 2 props go.'"
You are absolutely correct!, it would be suicide to let both Lee and Dowes go when Yak leaves.. and it will not happen because there simply isnt enough better quality replacements around , also i wonder what some people want from their front row , at times you find the odd one who has an offload like Moa or Omeley, some have a bit of speed Like Fozzard etc, others are usually bangers like Morley, peacock and Graham who can offload a bit and run a bit however those three are freaks in RL as we know and as such you have to compensate by having runners and tacklers we utilise Lee and Dowes for the second of those and BOTH work damned hard...
Many have been noted on here as worthy replacements like for instance LMS , now would he be a decent replacement because as I see it he has not moved on for two seasons now!! maybe he is next years FC scapegoat??
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| I aint making Dowes a scapegoat, just saying he offers nothing other than being a big bloke who runs at the defence and pulls up just before the tackle.
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| Quote ="GM1"I aint making Dowes a scapegoat, just saying he offers nothing other than being a big bloke who runs at the defence and pulls up just before the tackle.'"
Must admit I have never seen Dowes shy from taking the ball in to be honest
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| Quote ="PAUL M"No thanks, decent young prop but I would not have him back.'"
Agree. Wouldnt be a step in the right direction imo.
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| Scott Wheeldon was never offered a deal with Hull, because of the wrangling with Carvell about his on off contract, thats when KR came in for him, he did not want to leave us. Personally i thought he showed a lot of promise, he is a good pro, good trainer, with the right coach could do ok, no world beater but good squad player. Does anyone remember him putting Morley on his but than Morley shaking his hand in front of south stand.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Must admit I have never seen Dowes shy from taking the ball in to be honest'"
He's also broken about 3 tackles in the 6 seasons he's been at the club.
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Must admit I have never seen Dowes shy from taking the ball in to be honest'"
Agree,
But he gets dominated almost everytime in the collision,
and hardly ever, makes it over the advantage line.
Would prefer Scruton and LMS
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| Quote ="TKOAH"He's also broken about 3 tackles in the 6 seasons he's been at the club.'"
3? Are you sure it's that many??
The club and their spin doctor EXPRO clearly see something in Dowes that we dont. He must work hard in training or something?
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| Quote ="gary-hfc"Scott Wheeldon was never offered a deal with Hull, because of the wrangling with Carvell about his on off contract, thats when KR came in for him, he did not want to leave us. Personally i thought he showed a lot of promise, he is a good pro, good trainer, with the right coach could do ok, no world beater but good squad player. Does anyone remember him putting Morley on his but than Morley shaking his hand in front of south stand.'"
No point in him coming back here then Gary
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| Quote ="chico's nose"No point in him coming back here then Gary
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Doh! forgot about that
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| We decided not to keep Wheeldon as he was asking for more money that Moa and Maloney combined. As for having him back, not a chance. I'd get rid off all 3 of the plodders, and bring in 2 or 3 props, if we can only get 2 then use Fitzgibbon or Lauaki as front rowers, aswell as using them in the back row. McCarthy Scarsbrook would be a quality signing, Cooper aswell from Warrington, don't know who else we could for maybe Prescott or Coley.
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| Quote ="FC Callum"We decided not to keep Wheeldon as he was asking for more money that Moa and Maloney combined. As for having him back, not a chance. I'd get rid off all 3 of the plodders, and bring in 2 or 3 props, if we can only get 2 then use Fitzgibbon or Lauaki as front rowers, aswell as using them in the back row. McCarthy Scarsbrook would be a quality signing, Cooper aswell from Warrington, don't know who else we could for maybe Prescott or Coley.'"
Why would any of the above want to come here?
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| Quote ="BESTY"Why would any of the above want to come here?'"
agar could sell his vision for the club to them
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| Quote ="berro's best mate"would anyone be interested in re signing wheeldon as he's OOC at end of the season and quite obviuosly morgan dont want him.... he's alot younger,bigger and more aggressive than radford, cusack and dowes...also would come cheaper....
thoughts??'"
TBH i dont think hes aggressive enough.
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| Quote ="BESTY"Why would any of the above want to come here?'"
The same reason all the others have come here.
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