Still haven't made a decision yet, have had a pass since 96 and it would pain me to not renew. Ihad my doubts but renewed for this year on the basis of giving Agar ample time in the off season to sort the issues out (dire style of play etc), only for us to be in the same boat again drifting furher in the deep ocean that is meadiocracy (sp).

I will be renewing my pass regardless and would do so whatever.

Players, coaches, directors come and go as does form and success but Hull will always be my team.

Anyone who stops going just because we aren't playing well isn't a fan that we want at the club anyway. I'd rather have a hardcore support of 6,000 who will follow the club through thick and thin than 15,000 boo boys.

In any kind of weather my ar5e.

Sad to admit but me and the wife feel exactly the same.

I really don't understand why this is. I started watching in the Sharks era. We were garbage at times but I still felt like the players gave it a go and I was entertained and enjoyed going. Nowadays I endure the game rather than enjoy, yet if I feel like stopping going until the board change things, or even in the hope that enough fellow fans will do the same to force the board to act, I'm not a good enough fan?

Apparently, to be a 'proper fan' I have to part with substantial money to do something I don't enjoy and receive nothing in return. Can anyone give me a good reason/explanation why this should be?

I can tolerate many shortcomings in the team, be it players who aren't quite good enough but make up for it in effort, having a lack of the necessary resources to make improvements, even being shafted by forces genuinely out of the club's control. What I am growing tired of though is the club being one of the best positioned in almost every aspect but failing to capitalise by doing things in a half-ar$ed way.

That is the exact reason our club will go nowhere - people happy to settle for mediocrity. To be fair it's not just the club, but Hull as a whole!!! Until this changes, we will never be anything other than a mid-table wonnabe club.

And an even worse team than we have now.

Absolutely my view. In any kind of weather does have it's limits, we're not fooking stupid. I'll support the team that gives its all (and will be there in black and white when the likes of Rule etc are gone) but until the behind the scenes team changes many people will not be happy to follow the club. It all comes down from Hetherington, zero personality in the club from top to bottom.

We have the best stadium in Super League and a fan base that other clubs would envy. The potential for Hull FC is huge, yet we settle for mediocrity while the directors sip champers in the boardroom.

Turning up for games is not settling for mediocrity. Things have to change on and off the pitch - and fast - but don't knock people for loyalty.

You mean blind loyalty?

If we were cash strapped and put on that display week in week out, there would not be an issue. But the fact that we are apparently a club going places and off the field , but showing inept performances on it, just doesn't cut it for me. I've been a ticket holder for Hull for 20+ years, but have never felt this dejected with my club. Mediocre isn't even the word, we are damned right $hit!

Loyalty generally is blind. If you have to think long and hard about whether to be loyal or not it's not really loyally is it?

People are free to choose what they want to do. What I object to is when people seem to view the fact that they will still turn up regardless out of 'loyalty' (which in my opinion is misguided) as giving them some sort of superiority.

It seems that loyalty is a two way thing that has to be earned in every walk of life but sport. For some reason a sports fan has to show unending, unwavering 'loyalty' by forking out and turning up even if they feel they may be being taken for a ride.

I've not seen any evidence of that.

And I suppose everyone turning their back on the club will make us into an irresistable force?

It's got feck all to do with settling for mediocrity, I want this club to blow everyone out of the water every game, of course I do, but it doesn't happen like that. People seem to be able to come up with plenty of faults with Hull FC but no one has any answers, lets sack the coach and get rid of the dead wood half way through a season, thats great, but who is going to replace them? People are tied down to contracts and teams don't want to let their best players leave half way through the season. You can't just wave a magic wand and make everything okay.

Realistically there is nothing fans can do to help the club. Do you honestly think that just because people don't renew their passes the board will think, "oh dear, we need to buy a team of superstars to get them back on our side?" As a fan all you can do it support the team, thats what I intend to do and thats what everyone should be doing if they want to make a difference.

You are right but in the same way I don't think people who want to go and support the team regardless of the issues surrounding it should be called 'mugs' (not saying you have said this but it appears on this thread).

You wouldn't say that was the case in this post then?

It's not about getting us back on their side, it would be about them wanting us to start spending money again. And I do honestly think they would have to think about it if enough people stopped going and buying merchandise.

I agree, I just think it cuts both ways.

I haven't had a pass for two seasons now, and its great because when they're playing $hite I dont feel obliged to go and watch them 'just because I have a pass'. Ive actually saved a fair amount of money in this time.

Keep it up Hull!

I don't think I'm superior to anyone else because I get behind the team. I just don't get the mentality of people who say about how much they love the club and yet are prepared to turn their back on the side that they have supposedly supported all their life just because things aren't going their way.

Because it's the only weapon we have. Do you take any and all mistreatment from family and friends without any protest?

It's not about simply falling out of love with the team, it's about doing the only thing you can think of to get the message across that you want to be treated right in return.

not trying to wind people up but why not have a sit-in like warrington did?
means you can go to the game and get your point across + the board will see how upset you are.

Not been able to afford a pass this year......even struggling to get 'pass savings stamps' to be honest......BUT.....I support Hull FC, always have and always will.....If the funds become available....I WILL HAVE A PASS NEXT YEAR.....Players and coaches come and go.....FC will always be there!!!! And as long as I can walk......SO WILL I!!!

Because the board dont want to know!

But it's not the same is it? The club are hardly mistreating it's fans, they are playing poorly and will be feeling equally bad as we are because of it. Do you think the players and coaches like losing? Do you think the board enjoy the stick that they are getting? As I've said before you can't just wave a magic wand and make everything okay. To get this club back to the top is going to be a long process, it could take years, but we have the resources to do it. It's not a case of the board not wanting to make us a top side, but it's easier said than done. Besides we are currently the 6th best team in the country, the way people are going on you would think we are on the edge of going out of existance.