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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Coaches get found out in adverse times - Ours is currently getting mullered - 5 league losses in a row and no clue how to change things - a shocking season of performances in fact. Even when weve won weve generally been average - Radford is done imo'"
Had I seen an upturn in performance since the 1st Wakefield debacle despite results I was quite prepared to let LR have another season.
But now in adversity there is no change or desire in our structure or play I think we need a shakeup, fresh ideas and new blood in the coaching set up.
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| Quote ="hull2524"glad its just your opinion, its been a poor season no doubt but Radford wont be going anywhere'"
It's not just his opinion though, the difference is in how it's conveyed.
Although I do agree Lee will be our head coach for the following season for sure.
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| Quote ="Sebasteeno"Coaches get found out in adverse times - Ours is currently getting mullered - 5 league losses in a row and no clue how to change things - a shocking season of performances in fact. Even when weve won weve generally been average - Radford is done imo'"
The biggest mistake Radford has made and may eventually cost him his job is not planning any recruitment to freshen up the squad for next season.
Keeping Minichello and Washbrook on an extra year big mistake.
Manu was in two minds to stay and if that happens you have to let them go as they will never be on top of their game.
Jordan Abdull will never fit into Hulls system so we should try and get a fee for him and let him go.
The game is changing and all the top four teams have both power and pace and we have neither.
My opinion is that even with a fully fit squad next season we are on course for only an 8th place finish as Wakefield,Catalan and Huddersfield will finish above us.we can only hope Leeds or HKR dont come good.
Lose all the play off games and a bad start to next season then Pearson will find another coach
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| Austrlaia trip set us on the downward spiral of fatigue and injuries. Coupled with not replacing Ellis or Watts and we were always going to fall away at the business end of the season.
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| Quote ="bonaire"The biggest mistake Radford has made and may eventually cost him his job is not planning any recruitment to freshen up the squad for next season.
Keeping Minichello and Washbrook on an extra year big mistake.
Manu was in two minds to stay and if that happens you have to let them go as they will never be on top of their game.
Jordan Abdull will never fit into Hulls system so we should try and get a fee for him and let him go.
The game is changing and all the top four teams have both power and pace and we have neither.
My opinion is that even with a fully fit squad next season we are on course for only an 8th place finish as Wakefield,Catalan and Huddersfield will finish above us.we can only hope Leeds or HKR dont come good.
Lose all the play off games and a bad start to next season then Pearson will find another coach'"
Well said . Totally agree.
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| Abdull was being sold to Rovers before he broke his leg.
Bin him , he is not interested.
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| Quote ="the cal train"Austrlaia trip set us on the downward spiral of fatigue and injuries. Coupled with not replacing Ellis or Watts and we were always going to fall away at the business end of the season.'"
That Australia excuse is bs or you better tell Wigan they're not supposed to be playing fast attacking rugby or be 2nd in the league.
Our style of play has been found wanting and we are now seeing the result of when you no longer have the biggest pack or backs on the pitch and no speed or guile to compensate.
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| Quote ="HFC Boy"Abdull was being sold to Rovers before he broke his leg.
Bin him , he is not interested.'"
Dont think its an attitude thing with Abdul he just isnt very good, too big and slow for a half back and kicking isnt great either.
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| Style of play is down to our Coaching. Radford has only one way .
This squad can not deliver his style .
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| hung onto wakey until final 10 minutes from time, soon as they score to go in front are heads went down, no belief! some pathetic attempts to tackle on johnson before he scored.
no clue going forward, 2 halves just happy to put it up in the air every last set nearly! for all the critics horney had, at least he had a decent short kicking game, something we dont use a lot, especially in wet conditions
thought lane was good going forward tonight, others need to take note!
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| Quote ="number 6"hung onto wakey until final 10 minutes from time, soon as they score to go in front are heads went down, no belief! some pathetic attempts to tackle on johnson before he scored.
no clue going forward, 2 halves just happy to put it up in the air every last set nearly! for all the critics horney had, at least he had a decent short kicking game, something we dont use a lot, especially in wet conditions
thought lane was good going forward tonight, others need to take note!'"
Can tell you was there tonight no 6, we must go through the motions now, Lane was outstanding, were in the ugly part of the system now, were nothing really matters, a difficult part of the season, good on Scott Taylor giving it to Fafita when the game was done, desire shown in the depths of despair, don’t judge our team on these next few results, keep going Hull f@@k Bonaire and the rest of the rover gang, we will return strong,
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| Show me the coach and I'll show you the team.
We went through all this garbage in 2014 and 2015 with LR.
AP needs to grow some cahoonas like he had when it wasn't his money in soccer, and make the right call.
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"Show me the coach and I'll show you the team.
We went through all this garbage in 2014 and 2015 with LR.
AP needs to grow some cahoonas like he had when it wasn't his money in soccer, and make the right call.'"
You conveniently fail to mention seasons 2016/17 in your post.
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| Quote ="UllFC"Dont think its an attitude thing with Abdul he just isnt very good, too big and slow for a half back and kicking isnt great either.'"
According to a rovers fan last night on the bus home, Abdull has 100% signed for rovers, saying he knows him well.
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| 16-17 we won a 4 round ko comp
Forever grateful and amazing
Name a stand after Lee Radford
Blew best chances ever to win our first GF since 1991 in a 32 round comp
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Can tell you was there tonight no 6, we must go through the motions now, Lane was outstanding, were in the ugly part of the system now, were nothing really matters, a difficult part of the season, good on Scott Taylor giving it to Fafita when the game was done, desire shown in the depths of despair, don’t judge our team on these next few results, keep going Hull f@@k Bonaire and the rest of the rover gang, we will return strong,'"
What was the Taylor & Fafita thing?
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| Quote ="Tarquin Fuego"16-17 we won a 4 round ko comp
Forever grateful and amazing
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Blew best chances ever to win our first GF since 1991 in a 32 round comp'"
Yes.
That 4 round ko comp is one of only two major trophies available to win each and every season.
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| Quote ="Wilde 3"What was the Taylor & Fafita thing?'"
Hi Wilde 3, it was late in the game we were beat, Wakey five yards from our line, big Fafita drives in Tag flies in drives him out, then for a few minutes it all kicked off, not excuses the best team won, but the referee was dire.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Yes.
That 4 round ko comp is one of only two major trophies available to win each and every season.'"
Yes, but that doesnt change the fact that its still only 4 games and winning it isnt on its own the mark of a great team.
I dont care about these middle 8s and I am willing to give Radford botd, but injuries or no injuries this has been a pretty dismal season. My concern is that Radford doesn't seem to see the obvious glaring problems, and just thinks if everyone just tries a bit harder everything will be ok. If we start the season poorly and our style hasnt evolved and we aren't top 4 come Easter then its time to thank him for what he has done and bring in someone a bit more forward thinking.
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| Quote ="Mr. Zucchini Head"Yes, but that doesnt change the fact that its still only 4 games and winning it isnt on its own the mark of a great team.
I dont care about these middle 8s and I am willing to give Radford botd, but injuries or no injuries this has been a pretty dismal season. My concern is that Radford doesn't seem to see the obvious glaring problems, and just thinks if everyone just tries a bit harder everything will be ok. If we start the season poorly and our style hasnt evolved and we aren't top 4 come Easter then its time to thank him for what he has done and bring in someone a bit more forward thinking.'"
Certainly don't think Radford is indispensable.
We need to mend up and get back amongst it come 2019.
Do I think he's capable of achieving that?
Yes, he's already proven that to an extent, and he needs to again.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Certainly don't think Radford is indispensable.
We need to mend up and get back amongst it come 2019.
Do I think he's capable of achieving that?
Yes, he's already proven that to an extent, and he needs to again.'"
Agreed, but he is going to have to adapt. We dont have Watts, Ellis, Pritchard and Fonua anymore. We still have lots of quality but doing what worked in 2016 and 17 wont work anymore. But I'm not convinced he knows another way.
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| Quote ="WIZEB"Certainly don't think Radford is indispensable.
We need to mend up and get back amongst it come 2019.
Do I think he's capable of achieving that?
Yes, he's already proven that to an extent, and he needs to again.'"
A committed happy clapper here, accussed as such for not critiscing the club at every turn for the sake of it but even I get fed up. We’ve been dire for most of the season, and yes, injuries have caused most of the inconsistencies but teams have changed style radically this season, emulating Cas from last. We’re still playing “batter the opposition down the middle” but no longer have the players capable to carry it off. I left last night thinking “it’s going to be another long trophyless season 2019, because we’re going with the same squad and playing style”. Changes are needed but not sure Pearson can or will do it. Manu, Mini and Washy’s resinging is a big mistake, Washy was out of sentiment and giving him a testimonial which he deserves but he could have moved on and still be granted it from RFL. A change of coaching style and staff are required urgently, not Radford’s head as some want but definitely an experienced attacking coach but who’s available? Radford hinted on radio that he’s considering changes in playing staff and was critical of Manu for hunting instead of tackling but can contracts be changed once signed, we must be upto the cap again. The addition of Connor and Kelly last night wouldn’t have made a haypeth of difference IMO. So, I’ll ask all you experts and keyboard coaches, what seriously can be done?
I tried to post this 3 times but the site wouldn’t load it, porobably because of my sympathies.
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| Quote ="Riderofthepalehorse"Hi Wilde 3, it was late in the game we were beat, Wakey five yards from our line, big Fafita drives in Tag flies in drives him out, then for a few minutes it all kicked off, not excuses the best team won, but the referee was dire.'"
Handbags. Both players should be cited for throwing punches....and missing. Both had more chance of getting pneumonia from the draft off the missed punches.
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| Quote ="LyndsayGill"Handbags. Both players should be cited for throwing punches....and missing. Both had more chance of getting pneumonia from the draft off the missed punches.'"
But retaliation is the worst offence so why did Wakey get the pen?
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Quote '" Hi Wilde 3, it was late in the game we were beat, Wakey five yards from our line, big Fafita drives in Tag flies in drives him out, then for a few minutes it all kicked off, not excuses the best team won, but the referee was dire. Quote '"
Not exactly how it happens. Fifita makes the yards again with players on his back and certainly not pushed back as suggested. Taylor stupidly probably in frustration not being able to dominate concedes a penalty by grappling with fifita head while he’s on his knees. Act of frustration in being dominated by an opposition forward it would seem. Things like that put your team under pressure no matter how long in the match is gone.
Link is on totalrl thread or sky sports for you Wilde so you can see for yourself.
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There were no punches I could see. Grappling a players head on his knees defenceless and pulling is not a smart thing to do. It was handbags as a result of that foul. Not sure how you could get a pen for hull from that.
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Quote '" Hi Wilde 3, it was late in the game we were beat, Wakey five yards from our line, big Fafita drives in Tag flies in drives him out, then for a few minutes it all kicked off, not excuses the best team won, but the referee was dire. Quote '"
Not exactly how it happens. Fifita makes the yards again with players on his back and certainly not pushed back as suggested. Taylor stupidly probably in frustration not being able to dominate concedes a penalty by grappling with fifita head while he’s on his knees. Act of frustration in being dominated by an opposition forward it would seem. Things like that put your team under pressure no matter how long in the match is gone.
Link is on totalrl thread or sky sports for you Wilde so you can see for yourself.
www.skysports.com/rugby-league/h ... ield/49776
There were no punches I could see. Grappling a players head on his knees defenceless and pulling is not a smart thing to do. It was handbags as a result of that foul. Not sure how you could get a pen for hull from that.
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