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| I doubt its Westerman. Especially if it's Barker mentioning it. He's well known for being wide of the mark more often than not.
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| bit of a stretch to say Westerman can play in the backs too really
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| don't see it myself.
could it be sinfield? o'loughlin? Flanagan?
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| other names banded about on Salford forum are,Bateman, Lawrence, Clubb
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| I don't get how Salford are staying under the cap.
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| Quote ="F.C. Aces"I don't get how Salford are staying under the cap.
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Since last season we've lost Jake Mullaney, Tim Smith, Francis Meli, Danny Williams, Martin Gleeson, Steve Rapira, Shannon McPherson, Matty Ashurst, Jordan Davies, Will Hope and Gareth Owen.
They have been replaced with Kevin Locke, Mason Caton-Brown, Michael Dobson, Ben Jones-Bishop, Josh Griffin, Weller Hauraki, Scott Taylor, Liam Hood, Carl Forster, George Griffin Luke Menzies and Brad England.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Since last season we've lost Jake Mullaney, Tim Smith, Francis Meli, Danny Williams, Martin Gleeson, Steve Rapira, Shannon McPherson, Matty Ashurst, Jordan Davies, Will Hope and Gareth Owen.
They have been replaced with Kevin Locke, Mason Caton-Brown, Michael Dobson, Ben Jones-Bishop, Josh Griffin, Weller Hauraki, Scott Taylor, Liam Hood, Carl Forster, George Griffin Luke Menzies and Brad England.'"
if you think those that have been released were on more money than those who joined this coming season and mid last season people are going to think salford are over, dobson was a high earner at kr his value wont have dropped since then
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| Quote ="number 6"if you think those that have been released were on more money than those who joined this coming season and mid last season people are going to think salford are over, dobson was a high earner at kr his value wont have dropped since then'"
If you look at our incomings, you would say Kevin Locke, Ben Jones-Bishop and Michael Dobson will be highest earners. The rest wont be on much at all (with the exception of Hauraki who will be on a reasonable wage) the majority are young English lads that have come from lower teams (ie MCB, Griffin, Forster, Menzies etc).
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"If you look at our incomings, you would say Kevin Locke, Ben Jones-Bishop and Michael Dobson will be highest earners. The rest wont be on much at all (with the exception of Hauraki who will be on a reasonable wage) the majority are young English lads that have come from lower teams (ie MCB, Griffin, Forster, Menzies etc).'"
the 3 high earners will take up a large chunk at a guess, a long with chase!
like most clubs when signing players, they will get more of their contract payments in the latter of it.
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| Quote ="The Milky Bar Kid"Neil barker (reporter for Manchester Evening News) saying on Twitter
@NeilBarker14
Wonder if it's JOE WESTERMAN - mates with Chase at Cas - liked by Harris can play in 3/4 and pack - been away on int duty back this weekend
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Wonder if it is JOE WESTERMAN who could come in - he certainly fits the bill, he is mates with Chase - Reds and Hull have a good r'ship
@NeilBarker14
Reliably informed coach Harris is a fan of JOE WESTERMAN'"
Absolute Rubbish!!!
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Since last season we've lost Jake Mullaney, Tim Smith, Francis Meli, Danny Williams, Martin Gleeson, Steve Rapira, Shannon McPherson, Matty Ashurst, Jordan Davies, Will Hope and Gareth Owen.
They have been replaced with Kevin Locke, Mason Caton-Brown, Michael Dobson, Ben Jones-Bishop, Josh Griffin, Weller Hauraki, Scott Taylor, Liam Hood, Carl Forster, George Griffin Luke Menzies and Brad England.'"
No way are you under the cap then
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| koucash obviously sticking 2 fingers up to the salary cap which could result in us being outside the 8. Time the RFL grew a pair
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| Quote ="Jake the Peg"koucash obviously sticking 2 fingers up to the salary cap which could result in us being outside the 8. Time the RFL grew a pair'"
Agree but they should have a grown a pair with other clubs like Warrington and in the past wigan
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| Quote ="Legends and Icons"Agree but they should have a grown a pair with other clubs like Warrington and in the past wigan'"
and us?
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| from what dr evil as said in the past, he doesn't seem to care much about the salary cap, and if Salford were to win cc or the gf, wouldn't the money they got from them and/or earned leading upto it (tv, merchandise etc) out weigh the fine handed out?
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| The fact is, nobody knows what anybody is being paid you're all simply assuming Salford MUST be over the cap. When infact the reality is we're just spending what the majority of other clubs are doing.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"The fact is, nobody knows what anybody is being paid you're all simply assuming Salford MUST be over the cap. When infact the reality is we're just spending what the majority of other clubs are doing.'"
So nobody knows what anyone at Salford is paid, but you know they the club are spending the same as other clubs.
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| Quote ="number 6"the 3 high earners will take up a large chunk at a guess, a long with chase!
like most clubs when signing players, they will get more of their contract payments in the latter of it.'"
Gareth Hock won't be playing for the love of it either.
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| Quote ="Dave K."So nobody knows what anyone at Salford is paid, but you know they the club are spending the same as other clubs.'"
Errrr, yes because we passed last season's salary cap audit.
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| Quote ="John Gilbert Reds"Errrr, yes because we passed last season's salary cap audit.'" Ahhhhh....
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| Salford be in the cap. Big players are only on average salaries. It's their appearance monies for things outside rugby ie promoting horses for a few days work which is easily done outside the cap.
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| .... and here's me thinking that the Registrations and Salary Cap Manager would catch out every indiscretion.
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| Similar to tax, I strongly suspect there is little need for cap evasion by the rich when there is ample opportunity for cap avoidance. If Rovers could afford to exploit the loopholes more fully... well if others are doing it, then for all that I'm broadly pro-cap, I'd hardly complain.
Mind you, the RFL do often take a 'pragmatic' approach to enforcing their rules. I'm sure hull fans have few qualms about Pearson talking about signing Scott Taylor despite the anti-tampering rule.
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| Quote ="Mild Rover"Similar to tax, I strongly suspect there is little need for cap evasion by the rich when there is ample opportunity for cap avoidance. If Rovers could afford to exploit the loopholes more fully... well if others are doing it, then for all that I'm broadly pro-cap, I'd hardly complain.
Mind you, the RFL do often take a 'pragmatic' approach to enforcing their rules. I'm sure hull fans have few qualms about Pearson talking about signing Scott Taylor despite the anti-tampering rule.'"
It isn't tampering if the player's club give him permission to talk to others.
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| Quote ="ComeOnYouUll"It isn't tampering if the player's club give him permission to talk to others.'"
Given Wigan's reaction, do you think that is likely in this situation? The reason Hull won't get in to trouble is because the rule isn't enforced. The reason some clubs can spend more within the cap, is because they can afford to exploit its elasticity. Hull maybe can't to the same extent as Salford at the moment, but if they the could the cynic in me suspects there'd be less eagerness on here for the RFL to grow a pair.
My point is that 'the problem' with the cap is more about the rule than its enforcement.
In contrast the anti-tampering rule, is clear, unambiguous, widely understood and completely unenforceable.
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