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| Quote ="knocker norton"Seriously? You think players, coaches and chief execs should take messageboards seriously? Anonymous people posting in different guises usually spouting b00ll0x!
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No, I don't think they should 'take them seriously'. At least not individual posts. I do think they shouldn't be seen to be openly laughing at them, because, well, it's just not necessary.
I also think that the message board can give a sense of the general feeling amongst fans. Many of the people on here [ido[/i spout bollox, but if you sift all of that out, it's possible to gauge the dissatisfaction with our performances and respond more positively than a chuckle.
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| Quote ="knocker norton"And there are many more relevant channels to do exactly that!'"
And I'm sure some do that as well as posting on here.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Fair enough. That's probably the hyper-sensitive view to take.
As a regular poster on here I took it more as him knowing that he has some detractors on here who aren't backward in coming forward with personal abuse etc. Not by any means, as you say, all posters do that but some do. In the face of that he probably feels that laughing is the best retort - after all if you read that you were an 'imbecile' and an 'idiot', or that you were 'clueless' you could either waste a lot of energy worrying about it or just laugh it off. Seems like he has chosen the latter.'"
You could be right, I suppose.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Where has all this 'hiding behind usernames' crap come from? I'm sure anyone on here who gives their views online would be more than happy to discuss them in person.'"
Forgive me if i'm wrong but the club have given the fans a platform to do this.
My point is i believe the club should take anything written on here with a pinch of salt. it should be in person.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"I think that shows a measure of arrogance, to be honest. Even those that don't think Agar ought to be sacked are not convinced he's the right man to take us to the level where we're consistently challenging for trophies. I haven't spoken to anyone, on here or in person, who thinks it was the correct decision to extend his contract when they did.
So, whilst any sportsperson or coach should take the fans' views (particularly the more extreme ones) with a pinch of salt, to sit there and openly laugh at them shows a lack of respect for those who pay his wages. And if he does read this forum, he'll realise that many of the posts are quite considered and measured and even those ones don't give him a glowing endorsement.'"
Didnt seem like he was laughing at the fans to defend Agar. Seemed more laugh in the spirit of the evening and acknowledging that he isnt the most popular person at the minute.
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Forgive me if i'm wrong but the club have given the fans a platform to do this.
My point is i believe the club should take anything written on here with a pinch of salt. it should be in person.'"
Like I said, I don't think they should absorb, consider and respond to every post, but I do think that the board is useful for gauging the general mood amongst the fans and shouldn't be dismissed so lightly.
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"Didnt seem like he was laughing at the fans to defend Agar. Seemed more laugh in the spirit of the evening and acknowledging that he isnt the most popular person at the minute.'"
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Like I said, I don't think they should absorb, consider and respond to every post, but I do think that the board is useful for gauging the general mood amongst the fans and shouldn't be dismissed so lightly.'"
actually a tiny part of the faithful, and not everyone is in the grumpy club like you
jeez you even use Mr burns as your piccie for gods sake
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| Quote ="EXPRO"actually a tiny part of the faithful, '"
You are Rule
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| Quote ="Big Dave T"I heard him say 'i do read it mate' then he chuckled.'"
Must admit I thought he said "I don't read it", could be wrong though.
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| Quote ="Amadeo Avogadro"Like I said, I don't think they should absorb, consider and respond to every post, but I do think that the board is useful for gauging the general mood amongst the fans and shouldn't be dismissed so lightly.'"
Fair enough although I personally don't think it is a good way to gauge the mood of the fans.
Take the current situation most on here want agar out but of all the people i've spoken to friend/work etc hardly any blame agar and blame the players and are happy to be 4th with 6 games to go.
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| Quote ="Neil HFC"Must admit I thought he said "I don't read it", could be wrong though.'"
Like any good leader he will gauge all aspects of the commentary available to read be it HDM , this site or elsewhere but on ocassions he does...
for 20 quid i will give you his username too
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Fair enough although I personally don't think it is a good way to gauge the mood of the fans.
Take the current situation most on here want agar out but of all the people i've spoken to friend/work etc hardly any blame agar and blame the players and are happy to be 4th with 6 games to go.'"
well said, but as these forums go folk who hide behind pictures of mr burns and so on and so forth can vent their macho alter egos to the max with no real come back on them hence the posts become ludicrous and unhinged in their manner at times which is clear for all to see.
However the reality is that most folk I have had the pleasure of speaking to belive that the players are at fault in situations such as the last match and most believe we have the right coach who has placed us in our best position for three years almost !! and next year we will build again
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| Quote ="EXPRO"Like any good leader he will gauge all aspects of the commentary available to read be it HDM , this site or elsewhere but on ocassions he does...
for 20 quid i will give you his username too
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You don't need a username to view the forum
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| He said that he doesn't read it
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Fair enough although I personally don't think it is a good way to gauge the mood of the fans.
Take the current situation most on here want agar out but of all the people i've spoken to friend/work etc hardly any blame agar and blame the players and are happy to be 4th with 6 games to go.'"
the players have to shoulder some of the blame i agree, but most lies with agar
Celtic away, players were flat during the week its his job to make sure they are up for it
Wigan away, top of the table clash we was played off the park lucky to be so close
Salford away, another poor show
Quins Murrayfield,shocking dispaly against an average struggling side
Leeds away, there for the taking destroyed by senior and hall down that flank, why wasn't yeamo swapped to defend down that side
Leeds Challenge Cup,played off the park couldn't halt leeds offloads
Huddersfield away,18-0 up couldn't close the game out should never have lost from that lead
Bradford away,let big lead slip once again very lucky to hang on
Wakefield away, just dire awful back to basic rugby
Theres a pattern there we struggle to get up for games away from home, we shouldn't do most games are like home games with the following we take, buck stops with the coach
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| Quote ="EXPRO"well said, but as these forums go folk who hide behind pictures of mr burns and so on and so forth can vent their macho alter egos to the max with no real come back on them hence the posts become ludicrous and unhinged in their manner at times which is clear for all to see.
However the reality is that most folk I have had the pleasure of speaking to belive that the players are at fault in situations such as the last match and most believe we have the right coach who has placed us in our best position for three years almost !! and next year we will build again'"
good post!
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| Quote ="EXPRO"most believe we have the right coach who has placed us in our best position for three years almost !! and next year we will build again'"
Hang on he's also the one responsible for our worst two positions for well over a decade!!!
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| We should be grateful we get these forums, it's a chance for people to ask questions and they seem in the main to get answered. Some people will never like what Agar says and how he says it so no matter what answers he gives people will always pull it apart. The point is he seemed to answer most questions and never tried to avoid any difficult questions.
I think he has done a decent job this season. Whether he take us further next season remains to be seen but he does deserve some credit for his recruitment and our current league position.
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| Quote ="MrPhilb"You don't need a username to view the forum'"
you do to use it tho'
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| Quote ="EXPRO"well said, but as these forums go folk who hide behind pictures of mr burns and so on and so forth can vent their macho alter egos to the max with no real come back on them hence the posts become ludicrous and unhinged in their manner at times which is clear for all to see.'"
Don't be so harsh on yourself
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| Quote ="EXPRO"well said, but as these forums go folk who hide behind pictures of mr burns and so on and so forth can vent their macho alter egos to the max with no real come back on them hence the posts become ludicrous and unhinged in their manner at times which is clear for all to see.
However the reality is that most folk I have had the pleasure of speaking to belive that the players are at fault in situations such as the last match and most believe we have the right coach who has placed us in our best position for three years almost !! and next year we will build again'"
I don't count myself as one of the negative posters on here (although I still hide behind a picture of O'Meley) but there is no point in getting too involved. If you take a step back and stop trying to answer all of their posts (let's face it you can't make everyone agree with you) you might start to enjoy some of the inevitable banter that the yin and yang posts invoke. I would humbly suggest that you count to 10 before responding and chillax man it'll make your stay on here much more pleasurable.
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Fair enough although I personally don't think it is a good way to gauge the mood of the fans.
Take the current situation most on here want agar out but of all the people i've spoken to friend/work etc hardly any blame agar and blame the players and are happy to be 4th with 6 games to go.'"
Your POV is backed by record season ticket and merchandising sales.
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| Quote ="clubfoot fc"Fair enough although I personally don't think it is a good way to gauge the mood of the fans.
Take the current situation most on here want agar out but of all the people i've spoken to friend/work etc hardly any blame agar and blame the players and are happy to be 4th with 6 games to go.'"
I'd disagree that 'most' on here want Agar out - I think there's a fairly even split between those who definitely want him out and those who are yet to be convinced but are prepared to give him time. Oh, and, then there's EXPRO.
I think of all the people I speak to, most don't [iblame[/i Agar as such, but they don't like the style of rugby we currently play and think he's not the man to take us to the top.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Your POV is backed by record season ticket and merchandising sales.'"
To an extent. But then, I know many people (myself included) who buy a season ticket and merchandise regardless of what else happens.
For example, do you think the fans (overall) were happy after the last two seasons? I don't. And yet they still purchase tickets and shirts.
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