The latest rumoured talks I read didn’t mention points, it was just grade B for grade B.

That's the trouble with a lot of you Leeds fans ,you will not give credit to any club that turns it self round .Just for the record we own our ground .Is it true that the Stand that is joined to the Cricket Ground is loaned out to you as you do not want it to show on your balance sheet how much you are in det .Your Hospitality cost 240 pound a match .It is only 340 pounds at Wembley and that includes a breakfast .Just be thankful you are were you are ,and stop knocking Clubs that are trying to get better .Just be thankful and keep living with the tag lucky Leeds

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The Wezzies are a bit frosty this morning

Shows why you shouldn't drink before lunch time

at least he's balanced with chips on both shoulders.

I know I've made that mistake several times

As things stand, promotion and relegation is currently points based. Hence Wakefield coming up and London going down this season. The fact that it happens to be the team that finished 12th in Super League and the team that finished 1st in the Championship is coincidental. London were always destined to be heading back to the Championship next season because of the provisional grading they were given last year. There was just too much catching up to do.

What's now under consideration is a proposal that has been motioned by Batley that will be getting discussed by clubs at a meeting at the beginning of December that guarantees that the winner of the Championship gets promoted to Super League regardless of their points. The only criteria that club has to meet is that they have a Grade B licence. The proposal also says that in terms of relegation, the lowest ranked Grade B Super League club would be relegated with Grade A clubs exempt from relegation. "Lowest ranked" seems to be up for debate as to whether it means if it's the Grade B team that has the fewest grading points or the Grade B team that finishes the lowest in the league. If all Super League clubs eventually achieve Grade A, Super League would be expanded to include the Championship winner.

So we have this weird scenario under this proposal that Doncaster, currently the lowest ranked Grade B club in the Championship on 7.52 points, can guarantee themselves a place in Super League in 2026 if they win the Championship Grand Final. Their points score wouldn't matter compared to other Championship clubs, they would be in Super League as a reward for winning the competition. Meanwhile, Salford could potentially find themselves relegated despite having 6.45 points more than Doncaster because they are currently the lowest ranked Grade B team on points in the Super League. But if it's based on league position, you have the potential (although highly unlikely) scenario that the three Grade B clubs of Super League (FC, Huddersfield and Salford) could finish 1st, 2nd and 3rd respectively and the 3rd place team would be relegated in favour of Doncaster because the other nine clubs are Grade A and exempt from relegation.

As I said on a previous post, it either has to be straight up promotion and relegation or the grading system. Not some weird hybrid of the two.

This is rugby league all over, throughout the history of the game. The ability of the sport to turn a simple concept into a minefield never ceases to amaze!

Like you say RR, it's either the 12 clubs with the highest IMG grading or we go back to simple straight up straight down based solely on league performance/position and not some Frankenstein hybrid of the two.

If this proposal is carried not only will it add several layers of confusion to a sport already unfathomable to outsiders, but it will undoubtedly alienate the sports loyal hardcore support.
For what it's worth, I think the proposal will be rejected, chiefly by the SL clubs as it opens up to many of the nightmare scenarios such as the one you described above.

so if these proposals are approved, Wakefield could finish 12th but lose their grade a licence due to losing the points for the championship play off win and 1865 cup and get relegated

FWIW, I’ve been a Hull fan for 50 years and last time I checked this was a Hull FC forum.

Assuming you are a Bradford fan (?), I wasn’t actually criticizing Bradford, just giving an opinion that I think they have been astute in targeting the 2025 to make a push back into SL.

I wish you good luck for next season. In the meantime I will forward your feedback about Leeds Hospitality packages to someone in Leeds who might give .

There's a proposal being tabled by the Batley owner that a GradeB winning the Championship would replace a GradeB who finishes bottom of SL but this is just an idea at the moment.

My understanding is if both a GradeB finishes bottom of SL and one wins the Championship it would come down to points score.

Yep, it's all as clear as mud

. I said at the time gaining points to achieve grade A in SL for winning competitions in the Championship is just madness and ill thought out and thats not bashing Wakey as I think they have made big strides in other areas. Its just the fact a team can be awarded points based on on field performance/success that are playing in a lower league which for makes the whole grading system valueless if all teams aren't judged on the exact same points.

You wanna live on the coast...............
Can't f00kin move for them.


Give me some [iboat people[/i any day.
Far more sophisticated.

Yes and then win them both again in 2026 and be an A grade club once more.

As far as grading with promotion and relegation goes, the Batley owners idea sounds one of the better ones.

It helps give the Championship clubs the dream that they can still make it to SL but downside is it probably encourages boom or bust spending again and also highly likely the spell in SL would be over after 1 year and then the successful squad dispands (such as London having barely anyone left now)

For me this IMG thing has served a short term purpose of giving clubs a rocket to sort their facilities out. Some things such as the state of Belle Vue should have been sorted 20 years ago...but that's about the only success so far and I fear at the end of seasons we are going to see articles full of stats and what ifs rather than people actually talking about the rugby

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... on-4874197

https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/sport/r ... on-4874197

Have to say with every time Myler speaks I am impressed. There's a real sense of realism in his words and no selling of false promises which we have been subjected to all these years.

Agree, and judging by the reaction from the fans who attended last weeks forum they realise it as well.

8th would be significant progress and would lay a solid foundation challenging for the play-offs in 2026. It's going to be a long term project and we all must be patient.

I know it was pretty obvious anyway and Dan said from the off in the HDM but Myler confirms that Rapana has been specifically brought in to play fullback.

We’ve had a lot of players in recent years who’ve seemingly had a pop at the club when leaving. If anyone could feel hard done by it would probably be Jack Walker and the position he finds himself in, but noticed he’s been quite complimentary. As alluded to in the article, Myler knows how to deal with players and players will have a certain level of respect for him and what’s he’s achieved as a player. All due respect to Clarkey and AP it just seems a better environment having a real rugby man dealing with these things.

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More on the proposal. It would be the lowest placed Grade B team that would go down.

Having read that piece in The Yorkshire Post this morning I do feel that at last we have some cause for optimism. I'm really impressed with Myler although when he was appointed I was pretty aghast I have to say.

The fact is whether he is the new owners future son in law or not, its obvious that the new head of the club was influential in Richie's arrival which was, I guess, a massive gamble and that he has been putting money into the club or at least committing it to our projected future budgets since Myler's arrival.

The very fact that family or not Thirkill as a business man needs to be surrounded in his business empire by top managers of people, he obviously recognised the qualities and potential that they need to embrace and his choice of Myler has to be commended. Myler brings all that and our new owner had faith in what he could do. Insisting I'm told that Richies appointment was instrumental in his investing in the team, since then so well has Myler gone that Thirkell has now decided to buy the club.

As a new boy and no doubt in the eyes of some players and agents as 'an upstart' he is very good at selling the dream. I spoke to Asiata in a cafe in Beverley a few weeks back and its obvious that to prize him away from Leigh and Beaumont, Myler had to sell 'dream' and Asiata leading it and to me it was obvious that he had done just that. (Incidentally I also spoke to KR's new enforcer in Marks Cafe in Beverley the other day and he was very complimentary about our new coach too). For Asiata to be one of his first signings was mega really at least it was for a guy who had'nt ever been in an administrative role at a club before. I know too that Adam, after having reservations has been extremely impressed with Richie from day one. I feel that we have a real gem here and a massive discovery and as well as us all talking about the importance of getting Balmforth and Co signed up we also need to make sure that we hang onto Richie although all the vibes coming from him smack of a guy who is loving the position and the pressure.

I'm impressed with our new owner in waiting and with his prodigy, I'd like to hear a bit more form the other half of the ownership team but no doubt that will come, but fair do's this old timer who thinks he's seen it all and becoming cynical in the wake of it is really heartened by what I'm hearing and reading. Of course on the other side of things it also clarifies what a mess the club was in off the field and perhaps this change has come just in time to save us.

(Bloody hell another diatribe ...Sorry I must get out more)

Regardless of the system I think the Championship needs to get rid of its playoffs, crowds for the final aren't huge anyway and we risk a team winning the league with ease and then losing the final. Having a final also reduces the time they can confirm recruitment for next season.

Under the above idea in theory a 6th placed GradeB Championship team with indifferent results could fluke a Grand Final win and replace an SL team who are a much higher standard on the field. And result would be the promoted team getting hammered next season while relegated team cruise to winning the Championship which is pointless for all.

A benefit of Myler being in the role is he has only just retired so his contact list is fresh. I think a key ingredient in a Director Of Rugby responsible for signings is having a good contact book and that gets harder to maintain over time. Some signings in the game seem to come quickly from rumours a player is unhappy more a club want rid to free up salary cap space. I bet a lot of informal business is done with calls, messages and rumours.