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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Serious question, can somebody name the 7 internationals?'"
Fages, Locke and Hansen have played internationals, but struggling for the other 4. It was hardly like they were facing 7 of Australia and New Zealand's best!
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| Listened to it all now and I'm baffled. The only missing player I'd really suggest as a strike player is Shaul, and the only one will contribute to making us a 'pretty' side as he put it is possibly Westerman. He's significantly overstating it IMO.
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Quote ="SirStan"This:
I'm sure your oft-used quotabase will provide supporting evidence to back these deflections.'"
It was Radford that mentioned it, think he meant this sort of thing:
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-KR- ... story.html
Easty said this side has the most potential of a Rovers team of the last 30 years. Royston Vasey that Campese> Millward etc. Don't shoot the messenger.
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Quote ="SirStan"This:
I'm sure your oft-used quotabase will provide supporting evidence to back these deflections.'"
It was Radford that mentioned it, think he meant this sort of thing:
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-KR- ... story.html
Easty said this side has the most potential of a Rovers team of the last 30 years. Royston Vasey that Campese> Millward etc. Don't shoot the messenger.
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| Taylor Knights Tasi Samoa .
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Serious question, can somebody name the 7 internationals?'"
Locke
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Not sure on the other
Edit: Walton played for England U-17s if that counts?
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"It was Radford that mentioned it, think he meant this sort of thing:
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-KR- ... story.html
Easty said this side has the most potential of a Rovers team of the last 30 years. Royston Vasey that Campese> Millward etc. Don't shoot the messenger.
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That's a relief. Craig Murdock & Easty are true barometers of the Rovers fanbase.
Keyword missing in all this nonsense is Murdock's use of the word "attacking". He clearly wasn't talking about our defence as it's yet to be seen this season.
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Quote ="Mrs Barista"It was Radford that mentioned it, think he meant this sort of thing:
www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Hull-KR- ... story.html
Easty said this side has the most potential of a Rovers team of the last 30 years. Royston Vasey that Campese> Millward etc. Don't shoot the messenger.
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That's a relief. Craig Murdock & Easty are true barometers of the Rovers fanbase.
Keyword missing in all this nonsense is Murdock's use of the word "attacking". He clearly wasn't talking about our defence as it's yet to be seen this season.
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| Quote ="SirStan"That's a relief. Craig Murdock & Easty are true barometers of the Rovers fanbase.
Keyword missing in all this nonsense is Murdock's use of the word "attacking". He clearly wasn't talking about our defence as it's yet to be seen this season.'"
"Whether KR play Wigan, Bradford or Rochdale, they're always going to score points." Oops.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"I'm not saying he doesn't contribute to the clubs poor efforts, but once some ""fans"" have it in for someone they don't let up, now I have seen what fans have had some previous players feel like, kr have just been dry bummed with johnsons on but they are not calling for Chester/poching or the players out, iI just don't see it as healthy for the club that's all, a dog will bite when it's forced to.'"
Rovers are only a few months in with Chester and an almost completely new squad who are still gelling. It's also only the second time in the last 7 games they've lost by more than 8, and they had several missing, so it could just be a setback in recent progress, yet. Radford is well into his second season and we're getting worse, not better.
As for the dog analogy, if a dog bites the hand that feeds it more than once, it's usually best to put it down. He doesn't need to keep having digs at the fans, and that is not healthy for or helping the club either.
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| Strike power & fire on our edges ? . WTF
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| Quote ="UllFC"Fages, Locke and Hansen have played internationals, but struggling for the other 4. It was hardly like they were facing 7 of Australia and New Zealand's best!'"
Only other one I could think of was Darrell Griffin. He got a call up whilst at Hudds.
To add further context, we had 5 who have played international rugby ourselves.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Rovers are only a few months in with Chester and an almost completely new squad who are still gelling. It's also only the second time in the last 7 games they've lost by more than 8, and they had several missing, so it could just be a setback in recent progress, yet. Radford is well into his second season and we're getting worse, not better.
As for the dog analogy, if a dog bites the hand that feeds it more than once, it's usually best to put it down. He doesn't need to keep having digs at the fans, and that is not healthy for or helping the club either.'"
It is doom & gloom because of the rugby his team are serving up, but I think he means it shouldn't be as we are in & around the teams we should be with, we are 2points from 5th place, if we was in wakeys position I could understand he would be under fire, but we are surviving in what is the closest it's been for a very long time.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Rovers are only a few months in with Chester and an almost completely new squad who are still gelling. It's also only the second time in the last 7 games they've lost by more than 8, and they had several missing, so it could just be a setback in recent progress, yet. Radford is well into his second season and we're getting worse, not better.
As for the dog analogy, if a dog bites the hand that feeds it more than once, it's usually best to put it down. He doesn't need to keep having digs at the fans, and that is not healthy for or helping the club either.'"
He was asked directly by Lloyd "does it hurt you?", "what would you say to them?" And so on. If he said he wasn't bothered people would say he's a deaf/blind idiot. He says it does and feels it's partly unjustified and he's still wrong.
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| Quote ="Faithful One"Locke
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Not sure on the other
Edit: Walton played for England U-17s if that counts?'"
I got Griffin, so that's it then. Although Taylor is stretching it a bit. If he counts for them, we can add Whiting to ours & say we had 6.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Only other one I could think of was Darrell Griffin. He got a call up whilst at Hudds.
To add further context, we had 5 who have played international rugby ourselves.'"
So they did have more internationals than us. He was asked I think about their request to postpone the game due to 16 injuries. Pointing out the strength they still had plus our own absences is fair response.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"I got Griffin, so that's it then. Although Taylor is stretching it a bit. If he counts for them, we can add Whiting to ours & say we had 6.'"
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| Salford should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute for their actions this week. It's supposed to be a top professional sport yet they embarrass themselves and the game by trying to postpone a game and then fielding a pretty competitive team. Radford was entirely correct to point this out.
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"Salford should be charged with bringing the game into disrepute for their actions this week. It's supposed to be a top professional sport yet they embarrass themselves and the game by trying to postpone a game and then fielding a pretty competitive team. Radford was entirely correct to point this out.'"
Kr was more under strengthened then any side this week, they didn't just roll over & give up.......
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| as said before we had a pack missing paea cunningham bowden, hadley,ellis westerman, sub green, thats a lot of forward power sat in the stands
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| Quote ="hull2524"as said before we had a pack missing paea cunningham bowden, hadley,ellis westerman, sub green, thats a lot of forward power sat in the stands'"
And it showed particularly with 20 to go I thought we were losing the battle in the middle but fair play we hung in there.
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| Quote ="easthull fc fan"=#0000BFIt is doom & gloom because of the rugby his team are serving up, but I think he means it shouldn't be as we are in & around the teams we should be with, we are 2points from 5th place, if we was in wakeys position I could understand he would be under fire, but we are surviving in what is the closest it's been for a very long time.'"
Exactly. We are awful to watch. Being awful to watch only really cuts it as acceptable when you're winning nearly every week. If all we're going to do is survive, entertain us whilst doing so. That might well be the difference between Hull & Rovers fans that he doesn't understand, they get entertained, we get bored.
All I'm saying is he is contributing to how he is being perceived by fans with the way that he is handling himself, and I don't understand how he can think it will help. Gates are falling because people don't want to watch the rugby he has us playing, I don't see how criticising them and dropping hints that they are crap fans compared to other teams will reverse that trend.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Exactly. We are awful to watch. Being awful to watch only really cuts it as acceptable when you're winning nearly every week. If all we're going to do is survive, entertain us whilst doing so. That might well be the difference between Hull & Rovers fans that he doesn't understand, they get entertained, we get bored.
All I'm saying is he is contributing to how he is being perceived by fans with the way that he is handling himself, and I don't understand how he can think it will help. Gates are falling because people don't want to watch the rugby he has us playing, I don't see how criticising them and dropping hints that they are crap fans compared to other teams will reverse that trend.'"
In fairness our fans have been getting progressively crapper for a long time - in tandem with our demise over several years. It's also far easier to have a view aired these days. On balance he shouldn't have a go at the fans - or at least he should address his thoughts to those with banners but thank the majority of supporters who don't have banners, who turn up week in and week out when it really isn't easy, and who did actually get behind the team in the second half today. I think he has a right to take on his detractors but he should be praising the type of support that the team got tonight albeit late on.
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| Quote ="Mrs Barista"He was asked directly by Lloyd "does it hurt you?", "what would you say to them?" And so on. If he said he wasn't bothered people would say he's a deaf/blind idiot. He says it does and feels it's partly unjustified and he's still wrong.'"
I don't think he'd be wrong to say it as you've said it. As I've just said to easthull fc fan, what I don't understand is how he thinks the confrontational way he goes about things will help. He can say that it hurts and that he doesn't think all of the criticism is fair without antagonising anyone, but he picked a known tender spot by comparing Hull and Rovers fans and hinting that they are better fans. What good can that possibly engender?
After Saints he had a pop about fans who change their mind week to week, a month on and he's criticising fans for essentially still holding the same opinion as they did then, for being doom and gloom despite winning, pretty much the definitive opposite. I think he's either in denial, or doesn't truly understand what the unhappy fans are actually unhappy about.
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| Quote ="carl_spackler"Exactly. We are awful to watch. Being awful to watch only really cuts it as acceptable when you're winning nearly every week. If all we're going to do is survive, entertain us whilst doing so. That might well be the difference between Hull & Rovers fans that he doesn't understand, they get entertained, we get bored.
All I'm saying is he is contributing to how he is being perceived by fans with the way that he is handling himself, and I don't understand how he can think it will help. Gates are falling because people don't want to watch the rugby he has us playing, I don't see how criticising them and dropping hints that they are crap fans compared to other teams will reverse that trend.'"
He's a one trick pony coach who regardless of who's fit , Dropped , Injured , Signed , Will play the same monotonous style of rugby he only knows.
Have we really played any different with a full squad than the team he put out tonight ?.. imo no .
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| Quote ="Staffs FC"In fairness our fans have been getting progressively crapper for a long time - in tandem with our demise over several years. It's also far easier to have a view aired these days. On balance he shouldn't have a go at the fans - or at least he should address his thoughts to those with banners but thank the majority of supporters who don't have banners, who turn up week in and week out when it really isn't easy, and who did actually get behind the team in the second half today. I think he has a right to take on his detractors but he should be praising the type of support that the team got tonight albeit late on.'"
I mostly agree. He has a right to take on his detractors, but in his role he has a responsibility to do so in a measured way IMO. Being antagonistic and bordering on aggressive at times is not appropriate. In other businesses you wouldn't have a pop at your customers if they criticised your product, would you?
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| Radford just keeps on showing why he is not the man for the job, rather than just focusing on the win, who did a good job etc he just can't help himself having a pop.
He seems to be unable to fathom why fans are being critical, why fans are staying away but even then he should just shut up and say nothing and let the performances do the talking.
Only they aren't, we've being truly shocking for the most part playing the most boring least organised rugby since I can remember.
IF we avoid the middle 8s and then get into the top 6 by end of the season then he stays, if not he goes, it's as simple as that for me.
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