Half of me thinks that gentle has done his job in giving us 3 game plans which have been good enough to win the last 3 games, and the other half of me is wondering firstly how well we're mentally prepared and secondly what is being done inbetween games to address the issues we're seeing on the pitch.

Too early to be knocking him but he needs to get us back to doing the good things we were earlier in the season

We listened to Gentle on the way back and obviously we didn't like the result, but I liked his interview. He didn't give the usual crap about "showing character", he said it as he and I would imagine the vast majority of Hull fans there saw it. Some players made stupid decisions and others looked lack lustre and (in my opinion) one needs to get his head out of his arris and start practising catching the ball more (or drop him until he grows up - he's not a Saints player yet). Very disappointing 2nd half, but I didn't think we looked that alert in the first half.

Not much by the sounds of things as we're having to cancel training sessions due to players niggling injury.

TBF to his predecessors, though, they also consistently and accurately pointed out our failings after matches. The problem has not been identifying what has been going wrong, it's been the lack of putting things right. This is hopefully where Gentle will have more about him than the others, as all teams have bad spells. I personally think that taking the season as a whole, Gentle has got us on the right track, and in some ways farther along than I expected. I can well believe the possibility that there may be a few bruised egos having a negative effect ATM with the player turnover seemingly in the offing, but IMO it's a very necessary process as the squad we have clearly isn't up to it. And if there are indeed some players spitting their dummy out, then that's a clear indication that their attitude is not good enough.

Fingers crossed that we get rid of some more of the deadwood and bad apples this winter and see a more unified and consistent team next year.

Agree with all of that I think he does have the where-with-all to take this team forward and his game plans should have given us 3 wins from the last 3. His current playing staff as a unit aren't able to take us to that level though and it will need time for him to change that.

I have to question his decision to play Ellis at 6 today. Why not put Whiting there?

I agree with your sentiment but it seems that Whiting is seen as a back rower and occasional fill in outside back. There can be no doubt that Ellis isn't good enough after today's performance. Miles off.

I think Whiting is predominantly a back rower, but we'd look much better with him at 6 than Ellis. Hope that was his last game this season.

I agree, Ellis is not the answer but more worryingly as poor as he was I thought he was actually better in defense at least than Seymour today!

Same here , With Yeaman fit , we should have gone Whiting 6 .

couldn't of put it better myself

But then people would be saying he's playing players out of position and why not play Ellis when he's a half back .

If you pick half backs on there defensive capabilities, then that speaks volumes

Because he's not very good?

Very good points regards the hurt egos and I think some of the players told to look elsewhere have the bigger egos in the club.

That said I wish we as a club were not so public in announcing who would not be staying and for what reasons. Every club is going through the same process and I just feel it is unhelpful when a player sees McRae publicly state he is a goner for this reason or that.

Ah,sorry.

Rather rude isn`t it?
I reckon chucking a 20 point lead away warrants some sort of comment.
As for P.G. I have every faith he will eventually sort this business out.

If you can't tell the moronic comments from the warranted ones then maybe you do fall into that category after all.

Peter Gentle inherited a poor team with too many ego's.

Unlike football you can't just do a massive clear out and bring the players you want in straight away it takes time, he will get it right because he's a good coach, blame the players not him.

An excellent post.

It worked so well against L**ds & Ellis and Nicholas aren't good enough for SL.

So for the last 2 years when your players have under performed it was the coaches fault, now they're doing the same for a new coach it is the players fault.
I seem to remember having suggested on here several times that maybe it wasn't ALL Agar's fault and that your players had to take some responsibility but getting shot down.

They're agar's players by and large though, indoctrinated with 4 years of agar. agar is a shiit coach BTW

I wonder what he was referring to when he was talking about the in-house issues? One can only speculate.