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| Quote ="kt170496"Being an non smoker I don't agree with it .But it didn't do M Crane any harm he was a great player'"
Think Mick Crane often used to come on the pitch with a tab in his hand!!
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| Quote ="Ian P"Perhaps we should keep an eye on the local take away's to ensure that they are not abusing there bodies'" If we did that maybe Horne wouldn't have got the s at our mutual ex chinese takeaway lol!!!
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| Quote ="Ian P"The player who smokes has nothing to do with anyone other then his family, or have do we need a thought police as well.'"
You seem to have missed the point by a wide margin.
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| All I can say is, there's no smoke without Offiah.
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| Quote ="Isaiah"But wtf has it got to do with you, me or any other self-righteous dick?
If the club have a zero smoking policy, then don’t sign anyone up who smokes.
If he smokes and you still sign him up, then you get what you get.
If (as someone suggested) we get rid of O’Meley ‘because he smokes’ and we end up with a none smoking player with less ability, because we cannot get a decent replacement, will you be ok with that?'"
Exactly, thats pretty much the point. It's like saying well it's the taking part that counts "you get what you get", He'll do etc.
It's our club really so it's only to us that it should matter, as results on the pitch will, eventually, decree whether we are successful or not and survive or die. So I'd say it's pretty important.
I'm not arguing for or against it really, I'm just playing devil's advocate. In many ways it shows how amateurish our sport still is, although improving year by year.
I could just imagine GB team riders at British cycling nipping out for a fag between training and in the pub afterwards. Maybe they did years ago but then it changed, and now is a blue print for how to be an ultra sucessful sports development programme, with athletes pushed to the to the absolute maxiumum peak they can be. Their results pay tribute to this.
Now I know it wouldn't transfer over into rugby perfectly but I think we all agree our club could do with a bit more of this attitude and scientific approach. I'm hope I'm right in saying that I think the new regime is already providing this.
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| I really don't understand why a professional sportsman would choose to smoke. Even I'd they perform well it will limit them in some capacity.
That said as long as they are playing well I wouldn't really complain.
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| What a pretty ridiculous topic some of the best players in the game smoke,
Just because a player smokes dosn't hamper a players ability, think you also find that usually a player who smokes more often than not is one of the hardest trainers.
Smoking is a personal choice and considering the player in question this makes this thread even more of a joke...
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| Quote ="jacko1"Just because a player smokes dosn't hamper a players ability'"
The medical profession begs to differ. Smoking reduces athletic ability. That's a simple fact.
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| Quote ="Kosh"The medical profession begs to differ. Smoking reduces athletic ability. That's a simple fact.'"
Whoa!! facts and all!
Why would anybody smoke?
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| Quote ="Locko's Luck"All I can say is, there's no smoke without Offiah.'"
I hope you're not here all week...
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| Quote ="jacko1"Just because a player smokes dosn't hamper a players ability'"
Incorrect. In fact, the opposite.
Quote ="jacko1" think you also find that usually a player who smokes more often than not is one of the hardest trainers.'"
Is that right? I would love to see the evidence.
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| Plenty of smokers at the Olympics (One athlete estimated 70 out of 100 smoked at the Beijing Olympics) and these are supposed to be the best athletes each country has to offer. At the end of the day the effect smoking is having on Meley depends on a few factors, mainly how long he has been smoking and how many he smokes a day.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Plenty of smokers at the Olympics (One athlete estimated 70 out of 100 smoked at the Beijing Olympics) and these are supposed to be the best athletes each country has to offer. At the end of the day the effect smoking is having on Meley depends on a few factors, mainly how long he has been smoking and how many he smokes a day.'"
70 out of 100 Olympic athletes smoke? Find that extremely hard to believe.
The more a person smokes, the worse their performance can be. I don't know about O'Meley specifically.
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| Quote ="tommyfromhull"70 out of 100 Olympic athletes smoke? Find that extremely hard to believe.
The more a person smokes, the worse their performance can be. I don't know about O'Meley specifically.'"
When I was working on the Commonwealth Games a huge portion of the athelete's smoked (and drank, and sh@d about!), the one that didn't were usually those involved in events requiring endurance.
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| Quote ="hullbg"Plenty of smokers at the Olympics (One athlete estimated 70 out of 100 smoked at the Beijing Olympics) and these are supposed to be the best athletes each country has to offer.'"
I'd love to see the data for this claim as I find it frankly unbelievable. For a start it would mean that smokers are hugely over represented among Olympic level athletes compared to the general population.
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| Quote ="Kosh"I'd love to see the data for this claim as I find it frankly unbelievable. For a start it would mean that smokers are hugely over represented among Olympic level athletes compared to the general population.'"
[url=http://smokescreens.org/smokingathletes.htmOddly enough, it's in a story form a pro-smoking propoganda site[/url
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| Quote ="Standee"When I was working on the Commonwealth Games a huge portion of the athelete's smoked (and drank, and sh@d about!), the one that didn't were usually those involved in events requiring endurance.'"
Daley Thompson...smoker and always has been
Carl lewis was a smoker each bosy is different
AND lets call a spade a spade what the ferkk has it got to do with us wether they smoke or not as long as they work their bags of on match day!!
AND I am sure banning players from smoking/ drinking is going to infringe some human rights act somewhere no doubt so thats bollox i am sure.
each to their own
However in a e mail today The North Korean RL assure me no one smokes, drinks, has curry or dare not even fart without permission in their league because their contract is ended instantly if found doing so terminally
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| The thing I've never understood, and it applies more to football then Rugby League which is a bit more easy going about such things, is this...
Since Arsene Wenger came to this country every sports team in the land has taken on board all this sports science stuff that they never paid any attention to before. You now have a ridiculous situation where Barnsley will book out a suite and a load of rooms at Forest Pines ahead of a midweek Tuesday night game at Shorpe some 30 miles away because somebody somewhere has told them that their chances of winning increase by .1% if their players have a kip between 3pm and 5pm and a bowl of chicken and pasta at 5.30pm rather than just rolling up at Glanford Park on the bus at 6pm like they always used to. Talking to somebody who plays at QPR a couple of months ago said that for their 12noon kick off with Man Utd back in December they all had to eat a plate of chicken and pasta at 8am and it did their heads in. Each player's meal is structured throughout the week by the club nutritionist with what they should eat on what day and between what times all tailored to the kick off time at the weekend.
Clubs are spending thousands upon thousands of pounds on nutritionists, dieticians, monitoring equipment, hotel accommodation etc etc etc to try and give them a slight edge over opponents who are all pretty much doing the same thing.
And yet loads of players, footballers and rugby league, smoke. Now surely 10 fags a day or whatever is going to do more damage than a bowl of pasta at 8am is going to do good?
I just don't understand why, when they're so OCD about everything else, clubs don't have it written in the contracts that smoking is forbidden.
Anyway, not nearly enough naming and shaming going on on this thread. We all know about O'Meley and Tommy Lee used to chuff away when he was with us. Who else of the current crop engages in this mug's game?
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| Quote ="BarnetFC"The thing I've never understood, and it applies more to football then Rugby League which is a bit more easy going about such things, is this...
Since Arsene Wenger came to this country every sports team in the land has taken on board all this sports science stuff that they never paid any attention to before. You now have a ridiculous situation where Barnsley will book out a suite and a load of rooms at Forest Pines ahead of a midweek Tuesday night game at Shorpe some 30 miles away because somebody somewhere has told them that their chances of winning increase by .1% if their players have a kip between 3pm and 5pm and a bowl of chicken and pasta at 5.30pm rather than just rolling up at Glanford Park on the bus at 6pm like they always used to. Talking to somebody who plays at QPR a couple of months ago said that for their 12noon kick off with Man Utd back in December they all had to eat a plate of chicken and pasta at 8am and it did their heads in. Each player's meal is structured throughout the week by the club nutritionist with what they should eat on what day and between what times all tailored to the kick off time at the weekend.
Clubs are spending thousands upon thousands of pounds on nutritionists, dieticians, monitoring equipment, hotel accommodation etc etc etc to try and give them a slight edge over opponents who are all pretty much doing the same thing.
And yet loads of players, footballers and rugby league, smoke. Now surely 10 fags a day or whatever is going to do more damage than a bowl of pasta at 8am is going to do good?
I just don't understand why, when they're so OCD about everything else, clubs don't have it written in the contracts that smoking is forbidden.
Anyway, not nearly enough naming and shaming going on on this thread. We all know about O'Meley and Tommy Lee used to chuff away when he was with us. Who else of the current crop engages in this mug's game?'"
you sure your on the right forum??
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Ah, right. So basically it's an off-the-cuff comment by one weighlifter. And the entire article only refers to weightlifters, not athletes in general.
Solid data there.
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Ah, right. So basically it's an off-the-cuff comment by one weighlifter. And the entire article only refers to weightlifters, not athletes in general.
Solid data there.
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| What a pathetic thread.
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| Quote ="voodooroo"Daley Thompson...smoker and always has been
Carl lewis was a smoker each bosy is different
AND lets call a spade a spade what the ferkk has it got to do with us wether they smoke or not as long as they work their bags of on match day!!
AND I am sure banning players from smoking/ drinking is going to infringe some human rights act somewhere no doubt so thats bollox i am sure.
each to their own
However in a e mail today The North Korean RL assure me no one smokes, drinks, has curry or dare not even fart without permission in their league because their contract is ended instantly if found doing so terminally
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And another one missing the point by a country mile in his rush to be 'non-PC'.
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| Quote ="Kosh"And another one missing the point by a country mile in his rush to be 'non-PC'.
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In his defence, though, he is monumentally thick.
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| Quote ="JACK DETH"What a pathetic thread.'"
Yes I agree, the whole thing is a bit of a drag!
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